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re: So are the Feds going to arrest Sean Penn for aiding El Chapo? (Update: maybe)
Posted on 1/10/16 at 10:54 am to theronswanson
Posted on 1/10/16 at 10:54 am to theronswanson
Why quote me and make that statement? I said nothing of wishing him dead. Why do you assume his new found friend would do that?
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Posted on 1/10/16 at 10:56 am to shinerfan
quote:Shhhhh, shhh, shh, the sheople are trying to talk.
Bush had nothing to do with Mena.
He headed the CIA in the mid-70s. Aren't there photos of Bush sitting at a table with Barry Seal?
Posted on 1/10/16 at 10:57 am to Alahunter
Easier than going to the first page to copy this.
I'm fairly certain you up voted that. Also, the implication of your statement is clear and you are not that subtle about it.
quote:
I would rather start a rumor that Sean Penn told the Federales where El Chapo was. Maybe the cartel would kill Penn and we would be spared anymore of his BS/
I'm fairly certain you up voted that. Also, the implication of your statement is clear and you are not that subtle about it.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 11:09 am to Horsemeat
quote:I agree. I hate the fact that Americans are allowed to move around freely. I should be able to decide who gets to go where and when.
His arse should be rotting in Leavenworth for the rest of his days for this,
Am I doing it right?
Posted on 1/10/16 at 11:09 am to theronswanson
Your assumption on the upvote is incorrect. As far as your second statement, I take it that you believe Chapo to be a nefarious and deadly man? Collaborating with such a man has risks, does it not? And in that instance, there is but one person to blame if something bad were to fall upon him. I don't know why you seem shocked that playing with fire could result in burns.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 11:12 am to theronswanson
quote:
Please show us the statute for obstruction you are referring to.
Under US law, I was referring to the omnibus provision of 18 USC 1503, "interfering with the due administration of justice." But as stated in the OP, I'm not a Mexican attorney so I have no idea what their take on it is. But since you're so smart maybe you can explain it to a dummy like me.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 11:30 am to Alahunter
quote:Collaborating?
I take it that you believe Chapo to be a nefarious and deadly man? Collaborating with such a man has risks
Link?
Posted on 1/10/16 at 11:31 am to GaryMyMan
quote:Please explain to us how visiting someone "interferes with the due administration of justice."
Under US law, I was referring to the omnibus provision of 18 USC 1503, "interfering with the due administration of justice." But as stated in the OP, I'm not a Mexican attorney so I have no idea what their take on it is. But since you're so smart maybe you can explain it to a dummy like me.
tia
Posted on 1/10/16 at 11:37 am to TX Tiger
quote:
I take it that you believe Chapo to be a nefarious and deadly man? Collaborating with such a man has risksCollaborating? Link?
col·lab·o·rate
/k?'lab??rat/
verb
gerund or present participle: collaborating
work jointly on an activity, especially to produce or create something.
to work, one with another; cooperate, as on a literary work
Penn agreed that Guzman would have the final edit of the resulting story.
Penn also agreed not to alert authorities to the killer’s whereabouts.
LINK
Posted on 1/10/16 at 11:37 am to TX Tiger
Well, it doesn't. And if you take Penn's version of events at face value there may not be anything to prosecute. But if he is understating his role in providing burner phones, using secret email accounts and other means of covering up a fugative's location, then he may have. Again: I never said he was guilty of anything, but if I were a federal prosecutor I'd be a little curious. If I were a Mexican federale I'd probably be a little pissed.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 11:57 am to Alahunter
quote:
col·lab·o·rate
synonyms: co-operate, join forces, team up, band together, work together, participate, combine, ally; More
pool resources, put —— heads together
"they collaborated on the project"
cooperate traitorously with an enemy.
"the indigenous elite who collaborated with the colonizers"
synonyms: collude, conspire, fraternize, co-operate, consort, sympathize; informalbe in cahoots
"they collaborated with the enemy"
He was doing none of these things.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 11:59 am to GaryMyMan
quote:
18 USC 1503, "interfering with the due administration of justice.
I'm the dummy as I didn't even know about this. Please educate me as to where you learned about this.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 12:00 pm to TX Tiger
This is America. We lock people up in cages more than anyone else. Of course visiting someone is illegal somehow under some loose interpretation of the law.
This post was edited on 1/10/16 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 1/10/16 at 12:09 pm to GaryMyMan
What about Mark "Cutback" Davis or Bob "Jungle Death" Gerrard?
Posted on 1/10/16 at 12:11 pm to theronswanson
quote:
Please educate me as to where you learned about this.
Southern Law (Google).
Posted on 1/10/16 at 12:14 pm to GaryMyMan
quote:Because they don't have the ability to track and trace his every move if they wanted to. Is that your contention?
but if I were a federal prosecutor I'd be a little curious.
quote:What would they be pissed about? Because he has access and they don't? Who's fault is that?
If I were a Mexican federale I'd probably be a little pissed.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 12:15 pm to TX Tiger
Except, he did. For a commercial organization and monetary gain. He admittedly agreed to keep secret the whereabouts of someone responsible for the murder and torture of tens of thousands of people. But ignore that.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 12:15 pm to Asgard Device
quote:Freedom....ain't it great?
This is America. We lock people up in cages mote than anyone else. Of course visiting someone is illegal somehow under some loose interpretation of the law.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 12:19 pm to Alahunter
quote:Exactly. Not for nefarious reasons.
Except, he did. For a commercial organization and monetary gain.
quote:And it let to his capture. But ignore that.
He admittedly agreed to keep secret the whereabouts of someone responsible for the murder and torture of tens of thousands of people. But ignore that.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 12:20 pm to GaryMyMan
I'm no fan of Penn. He's a Grade-A POS for sure. Having said that, I don't think he deserves to be prosecuted for this. His role in this situation was a journalist, not a criminal. Reporter's protection should apply, imo. He has no obligation to identify anything unless subpoenaed.
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