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re: Smith Shooter's Lawyer "My Client Was Not The Aggressor"

Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:37 am to
Posted by slapahoe
USA
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:37 am to
how many times was hayes' gun fired?
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:37 am to
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Irrelevant


Shooter and Friend of Shooter were out and about with 2 fully loaded guns in their possession.

I don't think it's irrelevant.

Guns drugs and alcohol certainly don't mix.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:37 am to
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Well that plan sure backfired








You can't blame him for trying. I'm sure we've all wanted a woman to shut up at one time or another.
Posted by reddman
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:38 am to
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Shooter and Friend of Shooter were out and about with 2 fully loaded guns in their possession.


Where they were doesn't matter. Toxicology does.

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:39 am to
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ow many times was hayes' gun fired?
I am not certain that has come out yet. Witnesses report hearing 6-8 shots. Ballistics testing has not been done to know which gun fired the shots into the Smith's
Posted by reddman
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:39 am to
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how many times was hayes' gun fired?


Too fricking many.

Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:39 am to
I just heard on the radio that NO gun was found in Smith's vehicle. I assume this is a bad report
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:40 am to
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Shooter and Friend of Shooter were out and about with 2 fully loaded guns in their possession.

I don't think it's irrelevant.

Guns drugs and alcohol certainly don't mix.
So can I say Smith was out and about with guns and alcohol, that surely doesnt mix?


I have a feeling that wont be "fair" to you
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:40 am to
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I just heard on the radio that NO gun was found in Smith's vehicle. I assume this is a bad report
Yes, it is a bad report
Posted by JasonL79
Houston area
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:42 am to
Do we know if Hayes actually hit Will's car after the hit and run? What made Smith stop? I keep hearing people say that Hayes rammed Smith but not sure if that has been verified yet.

Smith tapped him on accident from what it looked like. It barely looks like he hit him and there didn't look to be much damage at all. If Hayes followed him and hit him on purpose, how is Will the aggressor?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108572 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:44 am to
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Do we know if Hayes actually hit Will's car after the hit and run? What made Smith stop? I keep hearing people say that Hayes rammed Smith but not sure if that has been verified yet.
It has not been verified if or why he hit Smith

ETA: Although i think it is fairly certain he did hit smith. However, the termed rammed and slammed is biased people at this point
This post was edited on 4/13/16 at 8:47 am
Posted by arseinclarse
Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:46 am to
Smith likely stopped bc there's a light at camp.
This post was edited on 4/13/16 at 8:47 am
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:48 am to
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Do we know if Hayes actually hit Will's car after the hit and run?


Not for sure but damage is visible on the back of the Mercedes. The spare tire compartment is clearly dented.
Posted by JasonL79
Houston area
Member since Jan 2010
6424 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:50 am to
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Shooter and Friend of Shooter were out and about with 2 fully loaded guns in their possession. I don't think it's irrelevant. Guns drugs and alcohol certainly don't mix.


Having a gun in your vehicle doesn't mean anything. And we don't know yet if either party had alcohol or drugs in their system.

Taking it out and shooting someone does mean something though. I really don't see how Hayes will get off unless Will had a gun in his hand when he was shot or caused him physical harm. I think we are pretty sure nothing physical happened.
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37696 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:52 am to
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Shooter and friend of shooter were out and about with 2 fully loaded guns in their possession.

I don't think it's irrelevant.

Guns drugs and alcohol certainly don't mix.


Will Smith and friends were out and about with a fully loaded gun in their possession, pulling a hit and run.

I don't think it's irrelevant.

Guns drugs and alcohol certainly don't mix.
Posted by arseinclarse
Member since Apr 2007
35305 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:54 am to
Many people driving in Nola have guns, and for good reason. It's not illegal.


So many people are scared of guns.
Posted by reddman
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:54 am to
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I think we are pretty sure nothing physical happened.


I'm not sure about that at all.
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2005
20351 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:59 am to
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It has not been verified if or why he hit Smith



I have read and watched every news report out there.

Lyons Yellin from WWLTV was at the scene and he reported that the Hummer hit the Mercedes and pushed it further up the street about 15 feet.

You're misreporting your updates.


The ONLY Smith that was hit was the Mercedes. No one has reported a physical altercation.

This post was edited on 4/13/16 at 9:01 am
Posted by JasonL79
Houston area
Member since Jan 2010
6424 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:59 am to
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quote: I think we are pretty sure nothing physical happened. I'm not sure about that at all.


I guess you are right. We don't know for sure yet. But judging from several witnesses, no one has mentioned any pushing or punches being thrown.

Guess we will have to wait on more info to come out.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 9:02 am to
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Guess we will have to wait on more info to come out.



Frick that. This is the thread where we jump to conclusions. Haven't you been paying attention?
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