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re: Smith Shooter's Lawyer "My Client Was Not The Aggressor"
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:18 pm to GynoSandberg
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:18 pm to GynoSandberg
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The guy who was rear ended and tried to pull to the side of the road is a dipshit a-hole
That's right. He's a stupid dipshit. He started a fight and murdered a man. Let that sink in. He started a fight and murdered a man over something fricking stupid
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:18 pm to Lester Earl
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i think it gives Hayes a clear reason to be upset. I bet his night was normal and he was perfectly calm before that. I think its pretty fair to say most people would be upset if that happened to them.
It gives him reason to follow while his passenger writes down lisence plate number and nothing else.
This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:18 pm to Lester Earl
That video doesn't help Smiths side at all.
Driving drunk (probably), rear ending someone, and driving off.....jeez
Driving drunk (probably), rear ending someone, and driving off.....jeez
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:18 pm to 4LSU2
The only thing relevant to the self defense claim wil be the 20-30 seconds before the shooting occurred
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:19 pm to diat150
Hates deliberately brake checked Smith nowhere near an intersection
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:20 pm to Chad504boy
Bro, you don't even attempt to be rational
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:20 pm to Chad504boy
So brake checking is a slow stop that gives the person following plenty of time to stop?
That is what a brake check is?
That is what a brake check is?
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:20 pm to Chad504boy
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Hates deliberately brake checked Smith nowhere near an intersection
Doesn't look that way to mean and it makes no sense. Smith didn't stop anywhere near Hayes' vehicle at the intersection before.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:21 pm to 4LSU2
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As far as I'm concerned, that video does nothing to help Hayes' self defense claim. If anything, that video hurts Hayes more than helps him.
Guess we'll see. If the tox reports show Smith was drunk, we know he broke 2 laws that night. I dont see exactly how that helps him, but ok.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:21 pm to lsupride87
That wasn't a brake check, but it surely wasn't a slow stop either.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:22 pm to Chad504boy
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Hates deliberately brake checked Smith nowhere near an intersection
maybe maybe not. perhaps smith was following too close. he definitely looked less than 2 car lengths behind the hummer. what if someone stepped out or a car pulled out. who knows.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:22 pm to KillerNut9
I honestly am watching and it looks like a completely normal stop. The placement seems odd, but the speed of the stop is nothing abnormal at all. Smith had ample time to stop as well
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:23 pm to tigerskin
Chad has long made up his mind. I don't know why y'all are even discussing it with him.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:23 pm to tigerskin
I think he purposely tried to be a douchebag in threads like this.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:24 pm to KillerNut9
this is the intersection. I know you are from out of town. The street they were traveling ended. You have to go left or right there. It is a long intersection to "run" if you are trying to beat the red light. Cars routinely stop short realizing they cant make it because those cars start to come head on.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:24 pm to boosiebadazz
This does bring the road rage issue back up
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:25 pm to boosiebadazz
he thinks someone will take his WhoDat card!!!
he prob prays to Buddy D, too
he prob prays to Buddy D, too
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:25 pm to Lester Earl
Ahh shite Lester I didn't realize where it was. I'm that case, it was a completely normal stop and not even in an odd placement
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:26 pm to Lester Earl
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i think it gives Hayes a clear reason to be upset.
Of course.
quote:
I think its pretty fair to say most people would be upset if that happened to them.
Upset sure. But enough to chase them down and ram the back of their car? Most people wouldn't do that. If the end game was to just get the info to resolve an accident, then why smash his car when they do finally stop.
No matter if Hayes was self defense or not, he was ready to tango the moment he hit Will's car. That's pretty apparent imo.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:26 pm to lsupride87
It looks more normal than a break check for sure. I'm just confused why he stopped 5+ car lengths before the light. You don't see any people crossing the street in both camera angles.
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