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re: Slave Reparations from Georgetown University
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:45 pm to MontyFranklyn
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:45 pm to MontyFranklyn
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I gives a frick about your compassion, homie. It does me no good. The topic wasn't even about the Irish, but as usual they are brought up to downplay blacks and basically saying, "well it wasn't that bad, the Irish did it too for a while." To try and closely compare the two situations is lame and childish as frick, but it is what is expected and accepted here on the OT. You compassion means shite if you aren't backing it with volunteering of your time and giving a helping hand. As a native, your people have been compensated for the horrors they have endured, but you know as descendant of Irish that what they endured and what blacks endured are nowhere close to being the same and trying to act like it is is pretty fricking insulting.
Why are you people always so angry?
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:45 pm to MontyFranklyn
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No, I didn't miss that. Racism exists and it's bad. It exists with all peoples, white, black, Asian. So how would you go about putting a monetary figure on that? If institutional racism exists and is a product of white people, for the purpose of bettering white people, then why is it that Asian households have the highest median income of all the races in America?
America has put a monetary figure on the the plight of the natives so it can't be that hard.
Is this money coming straight from the descendants of those who owned slaves? Does the Pakistani doctor who arrived in the 1970's have to cough up his fair share?
You do realize that there could very well be a shooting war if something like this were to seriously get any traction, right?
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:47 pm to RB10
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Here we go
That was a joke. Should I go back and edit to make sure people know I'm kidding?
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:47 pm to Pecker
quote:That is clear as day.
You're not the natives. And that monetary figure and any compensation has been virtually meaningless. Natives live in horrible conditions.
quote:Why do you all care if Georgetown gives away its money?
From the beginning, I said this was just another money grab which served no real purpose. You're not making a case that it's anything different.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:48 pm to Broke
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That was a joke. Should I go back and edit to make sure people know I'm kidding?
Let's see how it plays out
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:48 pm to MontyFranklyn
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America has put a monetary figure on the the plight of the natives so it can't be that hard.
So do you have to be a direct descendant of African slaves to get that cash, or are we just talking about African-Americans? Who gets the money?
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:48 pm to RB10
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Let's see how it plays out
shite I already did it. I don't want my black friends here to think I'm white devil.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:49 pm to MontyFranklyn
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Why do you all care if Georgetown gives away its money?
I don't care at all. In fact, I hope their gesture of goodwill comes back to ruin them financially. Just don't make me follow suit even though my family never owned slaves.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:50 pm to Broke
quote:How the frick do you know how I was impacted by it? How do you what my family endured afterwards? You don't, so fall back with that weak arse deflection.
You have been impacted absolutely 0% because your great, great, great, great grandpa was a slave. You realize slave owners were fricking rich to begin with right? That's how they could afford to buy slaves. Jeezus H when will this fricking nonsense stop?
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:50 pm to MontyFranklyn
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Why do you all care if Georgetown gives away its money?
It's another example of calls for reparations. Calls that have no rational explanation.
There are roughly 42 million black people in America. If we gave out 100 billion dollars in taxpayer money to all the black people in America as a form of reparations, that would be equal to a payment of roughly $2380 to each black person.
Will that help the black community and allow us to move on? Or will we have to revisit this in another 50 years when a couple more generations of black people decide they want some money for slavery? What's the purpose of any reparations?
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:50 pm to Broke
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I don't want my black friends here to think I'm white devil.
Like you ever had a choice.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:52 pm to Broke
If reparations are given by the US, any chance we could like draft a contract that requires all recipients to have a better attitude, lose the chip on their shoulder, and stop talking so freaking loud in the movie theater?
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:54 pm to upgrayedd
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Why are you people always so angry?
Probably because they are on the lowest rung of the socioeconomic in every country they inhabit.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:55 pm to MontyFranklyn
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How the frick do you know how I was impacted by it? How do you what my family endured afterwards?
Ok go ahead and tell me. We're waiting. How bad have you personally had it? Still get called "boy" a lot? Constant beatings with a whip? Long hours on the cotton farm?
Mother fricker let me tell you something. My mother grew up dirt fricking poor picking cotton on a cotton farm in St. Landry Parish. She had it 5 times harder than you'll ever have it. She had it so hard she swore that I would never go without and made sure I went to college.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:00 pm to MontyFranklyn
How has slavery affected you specifically?
What have you wanted to do in life but not been able to because of slavey?
What have you wanted to do in life but not been able to because of slavey?
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:01 pm to Broke
What about black families who owned slaves? Do they pay into the reparations fund or do they get to withdraw from the reparations fund?
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:01 pm to MontyFranklyn
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I gives a frick about your compassion, homie. It does me no good.
Good, because after reading the trite you clearly thought was a passionate response showing me how wrong I was you clearly don't deserve it. The only thing you care for is a money grab.
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your people have been compensated for the horrors they have endured
The larger tribes have received some compensation, but many tribes don't even receive federal recognition. Many cannot even claim scholarships and the like because many states would require people to register as white, irish, or colored. Do to this many bloodlines were lost and those in need were never able to claim anything.
quote:In America? Post 1910 I would agree, the previous 200 years are very similar and discounting it because of their skin color is pretty fricking insulting.
Irish that what they endured and what blacks endured are nowhere close to being the same
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You compassion means shite if you aren't backing it with volunteering of your time and giving a helping hand
I can assure you I've done what I can for my hometown and my community though I could give a frick about your acceptance.
My experience growing up in a town that was 73% African American is that racism in this country goes both ways.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:02 pm to Broke
quote:So did my grandmother. She sent 11/12 to college and 3 became millionaires. So I gives 0 fricks about you or your momma, real talk.
Ok go ahead and tell me. We're waiting. How bad have you personally had it? Still get called "boy" a lot? Constant beatings with a whip? Long hours on the cotton farm?
Mother fricker let me tell you something. My mother grew up dirt fricking poor picking cotton on a cotton farm in St. Landry Parish. She had it 5 times harder than you'll ever have it. She had it so hard she swore that I would never go without and made sure I went to college.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:02 pm to Pecker
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It's another example of calls for reparations. Calls that have no rational explanation.
There are roughly 42 million black people in America. If we gave out 100 billion dollars in taxpayer money to all the black people in America as a form of reparations, that would be equal to a payment of roughly $2380 to each black person.
Will that help the black community and allow us to move on? Or will we have to revisit this in another 50 years when a couple more generations of black people decide they want some money for slavery? What's the purpose of any reparations?
That's always been the crux of the issue. I mean ,I get it: African-Americans were treated like dog shite for the vast majority of this country's history, but straight up transfer payments have never helped in any of these circumstances and often make them worse, sometimes a lot worse. We've been doing round about transfer payments for fifty years now considering the percentages of African-Americans on public assistance compared to the percentages of Caucasian people. Has that helped at all?
I'd actually be perfectly fine with something like tax breaks for African-American owned businesses or targeted infrastructure development or programs designed to lay the foundations of wealth-building (like maybe more tax breaks on mortgages for African-Americans), but a straight up transfer payment would make things ten times worse.
Proving you're a descendant of slaves could be a lot trickier than most probably think, though. That's another can of worms. What if you're a descendant of a slave-owning Louisiana black Creole or a free Northerner? How does one even determine this stuff?
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:05 pm to Kjun Tiger
quote:LOL All of it.
Not a troll... serious question. What amount would put this issue to rest?
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