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re: Six Years Ago Today: Deepwater Horizon Explodes
Posted on 4/20/16 at 9:55 am to AU_251
Posted on 4/20/16 at 9:55 am to AU_251
These are screenshots of video's I took on platforms in the areas where oil was. These pictures are from 2012. The coral and marine life is still thriving. Yes, there was some marine death but no where near the impact as removing these facilities and killing all the coral and marine/mammal life on the platforms
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 9:57 am to mylsuhat
Obvious Photoshop is obvious. BP killed the Gulf. #sarcasm
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 9:58 am to AU_251
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a pipe busts a mile deep.
Please stop saying dumbarse things when you know nothing about the events in question.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 9:58 am to mylsuhat
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video's I took on platforms in the areas where oil was. These pictures are from 2012. The coral and marine life is still thriving. Yes, there was some marine death but no where near the impact as removing these facilities and killing all the coral and marine/mammal life on the platforms
You and I both know that the ecosystems on the platforms don't count when the government is doling out punishment and/or Red Snapper quotas.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 9:59 am to AU_251
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What is scary to me
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say the "middle life", or the coral reefs and stuff they can't actively monitor, has been impacted
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but they're not sure to what extent.
so without any evidence you are scared...their job is done.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 9:59 am to AU_251
I still see pics of a guy I graduated with from Catholic and his family on Facebook. So tragic for them.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:01 am to T
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We can't activly monitor activies of fish at the middle depths of the gulf of mexico, but slackster has satellite photos of Delacroix from 4000 BC
I was trying to find a map I've seen posted here that shows the various Mississippi River deltas over time (Cypermort Delta, Cocodrie Delta, etc.) but that picture did the trick all the same.
I'm not some tree-hugging SJW, but it is quite obvious that flood control structures and commerce are a huge detriment to the LA marshlands, particularly between Venice and Morgan City. I'm not going to argue that one is better than the other, because they both are an economic disaster for LA in the grand scheme of things, but there is no point in sugar coating it either.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:02 am to Boagni Swamp
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Please stop saying dumbarse things when you know nothing about the events in question.
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At 9:45 P.M. CDT on 20 April 2010, during the final phases of drilling the exploratory well at Macondo, a geyser of seawater erupted from the marine riser onto the rig, shooting 240 ft (73 m) into the air. This was soon followed by the eruption of a slushy combination of drilling mud, methane gas, and water. The gas component of the slushy material quickly transitioned into a fully gaseous state and then ignited into a series of explosions and then a firestorm. An attempt was made to activate the blowout preventer, but it failed.[47] The final defense to prevent an oil spill, a device known as a blind shear ram, was activated but failed to plug the well.[48]
What would you like me to do, type all this? Or i can just say a pipe busts a mile down and everyone knows what i'm talking about? then people like you and this other guy can be petty about semantics without actually stating anything at all
Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:03 am to slackster
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Does it help? No. Is it responsible? That is a stretch
Except that vegetation is the number one factor in slowing down erosion. It's the best velocity dissipation you can get.
So as far as accelerated erosion goes.. if the spill had a negative effect on vegetation than it is safe to say if had a negative impact on erosion.
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:07 am to AU_251
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What would you like me to do, type all this? Or i can just say a pipe busts a mile down and everyone knows what i'm talking about? then people like you and this other guy can be petty about semantics without actually stating anything at all
Saying "A pipe bursts a mile down" is the equivalent of saying I don't have a clue about what I'm talking about. I took nothing else you said serious after reading that sentence.
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:07 am to AU_251
I worked as a contractor for the oil spill clean up and basically was the situational awareness to some head ups at BP in the Mobile command center. Each day we had a guy fly from mobile bay to the source and take photos with a GPS camera (fancy technology six years ago) He would come back and I would upload the photos on a GIS map that had a tracker of all the Vessels out there to gameplan for cleanup efforts. Somedays there was so much oil out there that I thought it would never get cleaned up. Two tropical systems came through (deemed as firecanes since the lightning was gonna ignite all the oil and wreak havok) that summer almost back to back and poof no more oil. Maybe it was the despersants doing their job but mother nature took care of this shite. For weeks we would fly and not see a drop of oil out there.
I do not for one second believe it sunk to the bottom.
I do not for one second believe it sunk to the bottom.
This post was edited on 4/20/16 at 10:10 am
Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:08 am to bmy
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Except that vegetation is the number one factor in slowing down erosion. It's the best velocity dissipation you can get.
Which is why I said it doesn't help. I'd say the number one factor in costal erosion is the lack of sedimentary deposits. There are places on the LA coast that are growing just fine, despite rising seas and the O&G industry.
ETA: I don't think anyone is arguing that the spill was completely innocent, but it was more of a drop in the bucket compared to the overall issues we've been seeing for years.
This post was edited on 4/20/16 at 10:11 am
Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:10 am to AU_251
Scott Butard with B&B Fire and safety still owes me $872,480.50
How's that price of oil doing for you now motherfricker?
How's that price of oil doing for you now motherfricker?
Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:13 am to CE Tiger
Yea, I could see where mother nature could take care of itself. But I would have to guess that it also doesn't frequently have to deal with its own contaminant being spilled that badly. Still sucks
Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:22 am to dukke v
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I know this. Doesn't mean they weren't effected in some way. This thing was soooooo bad that we haven't even touched the surface of the damage it has caused. The damage don't to the fragile ego-system in the gulf is gonna be mind boggling. Just think about how much oil came from that well and into the water. Where did it all go????? There is still oil out there.
Hey dukke, you do realize natural oil seeps occur daily? And the amount released can make the DWH or the Exxon-Valdez spill seem pedestrian? If you care to get out of your own misguided way, please feel free to read a link or two provided. Or all of them.
Natural Seeps 80 Times More Than Valdez
Millions of Gallons Naturally Seep
DWH Oil at Bottom of Ocean
Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:27 am to mylsuhat
Those pics are awesome 
Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:31 am to mkibod1
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Hey dukke, you do realize natural oil seeps occur daily? And the amount released can make the DWH or the Exxon-Valdez spill seem pedestrian? If you care to get out of your own misguided way, please feel free to read a link or two provided. Or all of them.
To be fair you're not evaluating it from an ecological standpoint.
Millions of gallons of animal waste enter reservoirs every year. That's not the same thing as the addition of millions more in a short time frame. A reservoir could support X gallons/week of waste.. but add X gallons/week + Y (additional waste from new source).. and presto you have one hell of an algal bloom. Then fish die.. taking up available oxygen during decomposition. Then due to a low DO% more fish start to die.. and you end up losing 30-40% of the fish population because of the feedback loop.
The reality is that the impact (like always) is somewhere between where the alarmists say it is and where the deniers say it is
This post was edited on 4/20/16 at 10:34 am
Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:39 am to AU_251
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Or i can just say a pipe busts a mile down and everyone knows what i'm talking about? then people like you and this other guy can be petty about semantics without actually stating anything at all
There were several reasons to call you a dumbarse. I just chose the most obvious one. "Water we were born and raised in?" That's a bit over the top.
The Deepwater Horizon disaster stemmed from many failures. A "busted pipe" was not one of them.
Drilling for oil is hard. Some of the smartest people in the world are involved in finding the oil and producing it safely. You demean the industry, which is a helluva an industry, when you make stupid comments such as you did.
There was a plan to contain the oil. There is on every well. There were redundant measures to keep the oil in the ground, and the operations they were involved in were not particularly difficult. A variety of human factors made those plans and those measures moot. (That's my view at least.) That had nothing to do with a "busted pipe."
Your larger point is that because no system is foolproof, and considering Murphy's law, there should have been a better plan to contain oil in the deep water when a well went out of control. That may or may not be true. But like the other commentator, I discounted your point as so much blather because of the obviously ignorant language that you used to describe the event.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:48 am to bmy
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The reality is that the impact (like always) is somewhere between where the alarmists say it is and where the deniers say it is
I agree there, but to be all doom and gloom, and refuse to eat gulf seafood post spill, as dukke is, that is extremely short sighted. There was already a clear presence of oil in the gulf before the spill due to natural seeps, so if he ate it before, he was exposed to the same thing he would be post spill. I think the spill had a large impact on the area, but I do not think it is by any means some doom and gloom outcome.
Our company actually had Dr Ed Overton from LSU, who worked both Exxon-Valdez and the DWH spills, come out and talk about the spill. His summary is that our ecosystem is actually much more equipped to handle a spill or disaster than us feeble-minded, think we know if all humans give it credit for. I tend to agree with a guy who has had a Doctorate in Environmental Sciences since 1970.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:50 am to AU_251
We really need to phase out fossil fuels and natural gas ASAP. Renewable, clean energy is where it's at.
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