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re: Should police body cams be on at all times while the officer is on duty?
Posted on 6/3/20 at 9:50 am to BluegrassBelle
Posted on 6/3/20 at 9:50 am to BluegrassBelle
It’s a slippery slope. Gang units rely heavily on informants and citizens for info, would they be willing to talk if they knew they were being recorded? Are we okay with recording strip searches or compromising/vulnerable situations with victims of certain crimes?
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 9:51 am to OysterPoBoy
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Yes but they need to be able to turn them off if they are using the bathroom
So there is a golf course i go to that has a timer on the light in the bathroom. You can set it but you only get 15 minutes of light. It isn't even new technology hell it isn't even digital.
Yet we can't put something similar on a body cam. None of this changes unless cops are going to be subject to punishment for breaking protocols or laws. And when I say punishment it needs to be more than paid leave during an investigation.
Police will be way more hesitant to be assholes on a power trip in there is real consequences for that behavior.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 9:54 am to OysterPoBoy
Yes but shite like this should not be turned over to the media. It should be handled immediately and in court.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 9:54 am to BluegrassBelle
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The argument against them being on during the time the officer is on duty is that they can capture privileged conversations and is an invasion of the officer's privacy.
Storage and cataloging are some of the issues. May be more doable in the future but it's not easy to upload 36 hours of back to back video from three straight days worth of work to a server when hundreds are trying to do the same thing plus the additional thousands of hours a week from officers working details. You would need to add more positions for the technical side of things.
Another issue is that it's actually harder to looks for bad behavior when you have continuous footage instead of activations upon contact. The solution would be long pre-recording times before activations and gunfire sensors that automatically iniate during a gunfight.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 9:54 am to ClampClampington
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It’s a slippery slope. Gang units rely heavily on informants and citizens for info, would they be willing to talk if they knew they were being recorded? Are we okay with recording strip searches or compromising/vulnerable situations with victims of certain crimes?
That's a good question and I think a legitimate part of the privacy/privileged conversation debate. It's why I don't support the cams they have where they remain on at all times and can't be turned off.
You'd definitely have to have a set of protocols for when you can turn them off/on. But unfortunately, it seems like that's being abused in the situation here where its being turned off (or not even equipped) in situations where they should be worn and on.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 9:55 am to ClampClampington
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It’s a slippery slope. Gang units rely heavily on informants and citizens for info, would they be willing to talk if they knew they were being recorded? Are we okay with recording strip searches or compromising/vulnerable situations with victims of certain crimes?
Correct, any type of informant or just a concerned citizen or witness may be more fearful to give info if recorded. All of it would be public record.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 9:56 am to BluegrassBelle
Honestly if I was an officer I would want to have one on. Can’t get accused of stupid shite that way.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 10:02 am to BluegrassBelle
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You'd definitely have to have a set of protocols for when you can turn them off/on.
Yeah, and that’s where I’m not exactly sure what the current protocols are or if it’s something that needs to be much more defined. I just rarely think absolutes are the best option.
From the officers side, maybe it’s more attractive if the idea is they have the footage if they need it, instead of their every interaction being reviewed by someone else. I have nothing to hide from my boss, doesn’t mean I’d be okay with somebody listening to a recording of every call I make
Posted on 6/3/20 at 10:03 am to BluegrassBelle
There's no reason why the body cams shouldn't be on when actively policing (as opposed to patrolling / driving around in their car). Interacting with the public while on duty--in any capacity--should equal the body cam being on. Whether they're serving a warrant, dealing with protesters, stopping rioters and looters, handing out tickets, or busting up lemonade stands run by 12 year olds, the body cam should be. For their protection and the public's.
Undercover cops should be exempt from this, but only when performing undercover work. If they're functioning like regular police, then the body cam should be on.
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It’s a slippery slope. Gang units rely heavily on informants and citizens for info, would they be willing to talk if they knew they were being recorded? Are we okay with recording strip searches or compromising/vulnerable situations with victims of certain crimes?
Undercover cops should be exempt from this, but only when performing undercover work. If they're functioning like regular police, then the body cam should be on.
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 10:05 am
Posted on 6/3/20 at 10:18 am to BluegrassBelle
It kind of defeats the purpose of having them if they can be turned off at will. I get the invasion of privacy issue, but a lot of employers invade their employees privacy by monitoring them at work. When something happens, turning the camera off before just isn't a good look at all and makes it look like they have something to hide.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 10:20 am to TheAlmightySmash
If my salary was paid by tax dollars and I served the tax payer I shouldn’t have much of a say in anything.
Yes they should be on at all times while an officer is on duty.
Yes they should be on at all times while an officer is on duty.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 10:20 am to BluegrassBelle
No.
The public does not have the right to a private conversation with a family member or spouse. The public also does not have the right to have a camera on while the officer is using the bathroom
The public does not have the right to a private conversation with a family member or spouse. The public also does not have the right to have a camera on while the officer is using the bathroom
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