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Should men start accusing women of “Eye Assault”?
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:12 pm
Yes, I’m being hyperbolic here. But humor me for a minute...
In light of the cultural state of affairs between men and women these days, in which a man who smacks a woman’s butt is now accused of full-on sexual assault:
Marathon runner slaps reporter’s butt
First, I agree what the dumbass runner did was stupid and inappropriate. And the woman reporter has a right to feel violated. She should be able to charge him with a misdemeanor (instead of felony sexual assault!).
My question though:
If it is so horribly wrong for men to “objectify” and “abuse” women in this way...Why is it ok for women to constantly arouse our sexual instinct with provocative, public displays of their bodies? How many times have you, as a man, been similarly stunned (like the woman’s face in that video) into a state of sexual arousal by the random appearance of prominently exposed cleavage or a hot arse in yoga pants right in front of your face?
I’m not trying to validate either side. I’m more concerned with the hypocrisy of how things have become between the sexes. It seems that men are the always the evil perpetrators and women are always the helpless victims.
I’m really just trying to “start the conversation.” What says the OT?
In light of the cultural state of affairs between men and women these days, in which a man who smacks a woman’s butt is now accused of full-on sexual assault:
Marathon runner slaps reporter’s butt
First, I agree what the dumbass runner did was stupid and inappropriate. And the woman reporter has a right to feel violated. She should be able to charge him with a misdemeanor (instead of felony sexual assault!).
My question though:
If it is so horribly wrong for men to “objectify” and “abuse” women in this way...Why is it ok for women to constantly arouse our sexual instinct with provocative, public displays of their bodies? How many times have you, as a man, been similarly stunned (like the woman’s face in that video) into a state of sexual arousal by the random appearance of prominently exposed cleavage or a hot arse in yoga pants right in front of your face?
I’m not trying to validate either side. I’m more concerned with the hypocrisy of how things have become between the sexes. It seems that men are the always the evil perpetrators and women are always the helpless victims.
I’m really just trying to “start the conversation.” What says the OT?
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:14 pm to Randman
Don’t know but can vouch that women have raped my ears with their incessant nagging.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:15 pm to Randman
You realize that looking and touching are two different things, right?
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:15 pm to Randman
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Why is it ok for women to constantly arouse our sexual instinct with provocative, public displays of their bodies?
Jesus Christ, we live in a polite society, We aren't Neaderthals
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:17 pm to Randman
this is quite the rapey thread
"she was asking for it"
yeesh
"she was asking for it"
yeesh
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:21 pm to LordSaintly
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You realize that looking and touching are two different things
Yes absolutely. Remember me saying this?:
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I’m being hyperbolic here. But humor me for a minute...
But do you not agree that, biologically speaking, a man’s eyes are much more akin to being “touched” by a woman’s appearance?
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:22 pm to Salmon
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this is quite the rapey thread
You’re making my point. A man slapping a woman’s butt is now an the level of rape?
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:23 pm to Randman
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A man slapping a woman’s butt is now an the level of rape?
No.
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You’re making my point.
You are doing a terrible job at making your point.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:24 pm to Salmon
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"she was asking for it"
FTR I’m not suggesting this reporter was dressed provocatively. She didn’t invite this behavior in any way.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:24 pm to Randman
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Why is it ok for women to constantly arouse our sexual instinct with provocative, public displays of their bodies? How many times have you, as a man, been similarly stunned (like the woman’s face in that video) into a state of sexual arousal by the random appearance of prominently exposed cleavage or a hot arse in yoga pants right in front of your face?
Take your boner and go home. The way a woman dresses doesn’t give anyone a right to grope her
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:25 pm to Salmon
Then why use the term “rapey”?
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:26 pm to Randman
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Then why use the term “rapey”?
Because you are using the "if she's dressed a certain way, it's okay to slap her arse" argument.
Which is the same thought process that leads to "if she's dressed a certain way, she must be DTF." Those sort of assumptions may lead to rather rapey misunderstandings.
This post was edited on 12/9/19 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:27 pm to Randman
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Then why use the term “rapey”?
because of this logic
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Why is it ok for women to constantly arouse our sexual instinct with provocative, public displays of their bodies?
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It seems that men are the always the evil perpetrators and women are always the helpless victims.
its the "she was asking for it" logic, which is rapey af
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:28 pm to UGATiger26
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Because you are using the "if she's dressed a certain way, it's okay to slap her arse" argument.
Did you read my post? Where did I say it was as ok for the dude to slap her arse?
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:28 pm to Randman
She claims she was violated, objectified and embarrassed. I’ll give her the first and last, but no way does she know if she was objectified.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:29 pm to Randman
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But do you not agree that, biologically speaking, a man’s eyes are much more akin to being “touched” by a woman’s appearance?
Men and women are wired differently, yes. But what you're describing is something akin to Saudi Arabia's laws on women (that is, it's "indecent" for women to show their bodies and they are required by law to be covered).
frick that. We live in an open, free, Western society.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:30 pm to Salmon
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I’m not trying to validate either side. I’m more concerned with the hypocrisy of how things have become between the sexes.
Did y’all read this part in my initial post?
You guys are missing the point. C’mon, use the logical side of your brain instead of immediately running to the emotional reaction to your assumptions.
This post was edited on 12/9/19 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:31 pm to Randman
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Did y’all read this part in my initial post?
Yes.
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You guys are missing the point.
Or maybe you need to explain your point better.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:34 pm to Randman
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Did you read my post? Where did I say it was as ok for the dude to slap her arse?
You didn't. But you did say this.
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Why is it ok for women to constantly arouse our sexual instinct with provocative, public displays of their bodies?
Being aroused at the sight of a woman wearing a bikini is not the same as a woman having her arse slapped by some jackass stranger.
There's lots of reasons they don't equate. But just for starters, you can choose to look away from a scantily-clad woman. This girl did not have the choice to not have her arse slapped.
Trying to equate the two would carry the presumption that men cannot control themselves when they see a woman dressed a certain way.
So if that's the argument you want to make, then you are essentially saying that it's - at the very least - understandable when a dude smacks a woman's arse.
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