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re: Shooting at North Park Elementary School in San Bernardino CA

Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:31 pm to
Posted by TheArrogantCorndog
Highland Rd
Member since Sep 2009
16031 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:31 pm to
Gun free zones continue to be some of the most dangerous places in America

Poor kids
Posted by CypressTrout10
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2016
3152 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:31 pm to
Im gonna guess murder/suicide. Gunman shot the teacher, then himself. Two students hit accidentally by missed shots
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
24301 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:34 pm to
coward
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66493 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:34 pm to
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terd ferguson


i agree
my blood boils when kids are pulled into shite like this.
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
16461 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:34 pm to
We need more laws until criminals change their behavior.
Posted by CaptainPanic
18.44311,-64.764021
Member since Sep 2011
25582 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:35 pm to
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The should absolutely ban guns in schools.
Yeah that way the innocent people have no protection from someone who is going to break that law anyways and shoot up a school.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37572 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:40 pm to
Dear sir coming here to murder someone. Please be aware that bringing a gun in the school is against the law and you could get in trouble for it.
Posted by HeadCoach
Shady's Parking Lot
Member since Mar 2009
5659 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 2:03 pm to
People are shot in "gun-loved" zones everyday. GTFO with the political rhetoric
Posted by Jp1LSU
Fiji
Member since Oct 2005
2542 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 2:06 pm to
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Yeah that way the innocent people have no protection from someone who is going to break that law anyways and shoot up a school.

Says the person I bet has never been in a shootout, prolly has never been shot at. The idea that armed citizens with none or barely any combat training are going to regularly thwart gun violence is silly. Ask people who've been there (LEO or combat vets). Most people who've been in this experience will tell you that he first time you close your eyes and fire as much as you can. That's after years of training. The average soldier will tell you that their first firefight resulted in them being out of ammo and hitting nothing. Partly why there is so much friendly fire deaths in battles.
The average teacher would be more of a liability than a savior in a fire fight in a school.

Drug free zones and gun free zones don't invite more drugs and crime, they up the penalty for infractions. Ridiculing them is just the same as saying crime wouldn't happen if it weren't for drug free zones or gun free zones.
Arkansas is following this logic. I can't even begin to imagine what can happen when there's several hundred guns in a football stadium. Shots get fired and it will be a massacre. No one will no who is who and everyone will be shooting.
Posted by Char Aznable
Member since Dec 2016
250 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 2:08 pm to
Teachers husband probaby found out she was getting it from Tyrone or Jose and flipped his shite.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38229 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 2:10 pm to
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Says the person I bet has never been in a shootout, prolly has never been shot at. The idea that armed citizens with none or barely any combat training are going to regularly thwart gun violence is silly.


just out of curiosity, are you law enforcement, military, or have any experience in combat?
Posted by MadtownTiger
Texas
Member since Sep 2010
4428 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 2:17 pm to
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The idea that armed citizens with none or barely any combat training are going to regularly thwart gun violence is silly


You must not do a lot of research before saying things.

Texas has already looked into this and would require teachers who wish to carry on campus to pass the equivalent of a more extensive CCL class.
Posted by Jp1LSU
Fiji
Member since Oct 2005
2542 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 2:27 pm to
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Texas has already looked into this and would require teachers who wish to carry on campus to pass the equivalent of a more extensive CCL class.

Because a gun safety class prepares you for a gunfight. Knowing how to pull a trigger and being able to pull a trigger aren't the same thing. The latter requires a more sophisticated kind of training for the non psycho.
Posted by CaptainPanic
18.44311,-64.764021
Member since Sep 2011
25582 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 2:29 pm to
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Because a gun safety class prepares you for a gunfight. Knowing how to pull a trigger and being able to pull a trigger aren't the same thing. The latter requires a more sophisticated kind of training for the non psycho.
Which it why the training needs to be taken seriously. If you're job is to mentor someone else's child, you're responsible to protect them. That working body needs to improve their crop of teachers anyways.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38229 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 2:33 pm to
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The idea that armed citizens with none or barely any combat training are going to regularly thwart gun violence is silly



quote:

Because a gun safety class prepares you for a gunfight. Knowing how to pull a trigger and being able to pull a trigger aren't the same thing. The latter requires a more sophisticated kind of training for the non psycho.


man you just keep burying yourself (pardon the pun). Guess all these guys are psychos




this 23 YO says differently
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this (old) guy says hello
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79-year-old man kills home invasion suspect, deputies looking for 2 other suspects


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this guy as well
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This post was edited on 4/10/17 at 2:35 pm
Posted by CarolinaDawg
Richmond Hill, GA
Member since Sep 2007
142 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 2:41 pm to
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Drug free zones and gun free zones don't invite more drugs and crime, they up the penalty for infractions.


Drug free and gun free shouldn't even be in the same sentence. One is illegal, the other isn't. You can increase the penalty without barring the lawful use. The only people that obey these laws are the lawful users. The criminal doesn't care.
Posted by MadtownTiger
Texas
Member since Sep 2010
4428 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

Because a gun safety class prepares you for a gunfight. Knowing how to pull a trigger and being able to pull a trigger aren't the same thing. The latter requires a more sophisticated kind of training for the non psycho.



Well, you know a CCL doesn't just show you how to carry a pistol in a concealed holster. You have to prove you can handle and shoot the gun properly.

Nothing is going to prepare you for a gunfight unless you have been shot at before.

But I understand what you're saying, having signs up saying it's a gun-free zone and that you will get in real big trouble after killing such and such people is much safer than having qualified individuals who have taken courses to possibly give them and their children a fighting chance.
Posted by spaceranger
Member since Jan 2017
1627 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

active shooter at North Park Elementary School


quote:

few blocks from campus


so not at the school. way to try and get more clicks even on a shooting. SMH
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
34758 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 2:44 pm to
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Right after they ban shooting people? Shooters don't care if guns are banned...



It's amazing, some people don't get that simple concept...
This post was edited on 4/10/17 at 2:45 pm
Posted by Dorothy
Munchkinland
Member since Oct 2008
18154 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 2:46 pm to
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so not at the school. way to try and get more clicks even on a shooting.


No, the shooting DID take place at North Park Elementary school. That tweet "few blocks from campus" and to shelter in place came from CSUSB.
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