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re: Shakespeare was a racist
Posted on 5/22/21 at 10:30 am to SpotCheckBilly
Posted on 5/22/21 at 10:30 am to SpotCheckBilly
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Today we are hearing leftists say, "Tear down that civilization."
Where did you hear someone say this? I get what you are saying, but did you literally hear people say that?
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Posted on 5/22/21 at 10:31 am to OweO
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Where did you hear someone say this? I get what you are saying, but did you literally hear people say that?
It was so nice here in your absence
Posted on 5/22/21 at 10:32 am to OweO
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Where did you hear someone say this? I get what you are saying, but did you literally hear people say that?
Whooosh.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 10:36 am to OweO
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Where did you hear someone say this? I get what you are saying, but did you literally hear people say that?
Yes. It was Bob. Bob said it, back in January.
ETA: You know, everyone knows the famous Reagan quote, but it’s not the whole story.
Reagan said “Tear down this wall.”
And so they started. But then, on the other side, he saw you, and screamed, in desperation.
“BUILD THE WALL BACK!”
This post was edited on 5/22/21 at 10:39 am
Posted on 5/22/21 at 10:37 am to fr33manator
fricking Bob.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:03 am to Demshoes
- I would like to pound the word problematic into oblivion. Makes my skin crawl-
You are right! Its problematic.
You are right! Its problematic.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:05 am to fr33manator
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I don't know how many black people ole' Bill had ever seen during his time
Just Othello the Moop.
And of course Anne Boleyn
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:12 am to Geekboy
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Globe Theatre launches project to rid Shakespeare's famous plays of 'problematic racialised dynamics' that link whiteness to beauty
Black is beautiful!
But not white people. Never, ever white people.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:12 am to Geekboy
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:15 am to Geekboy
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project to rid Shakespeare's famous plays of 'problematic racialised dynamics' that link whiteness to beauty
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:22 am to fr33manator
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Just Othello the Moop.
Oh yeah... from The Moop of Venice. Good play.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:29 am to SPEEDY
Their thinking is so reductive that they don’t even see how racist it is.
They don’t understand any deeper concepts, subtext or meaning because they are caught up in a blisteringly stupid modern lens that sees everything through melanin colored classes (glasses of color?)
Forget the etymology of it all. Forget history, language, and millennia of culture.
Black and white MUST refer to skin color, even though few Englishmen had even SEEN a brown person (and visa versa).
Forget that every language develops the color words for white and black first, which really mean light and dark, day and night.
Forget that the night and the dark were real, actual dangers back then, and that literal monsters lurked in the dark. Things with teeth and claws that would rip your throat out, or bandits willing to slit it.
And the light of the campfire or the in meant some safety, or at least being able to see what was around you, because light dispels the shadow and all the terrors that lurk within.
Forget that in nature, light, or white, most often means healthy and good and safe. You bite into an apple and see white, you keep eating. You bite and see the Darkness of rot and decay, you spit it out.
Spreading mold, disease, dead crops, burnt fields...all darkness. Blackness. Shadow.
And the light is what keeps the dark at bay.
But, obviously, a centuries dead Englishman was talking about skin color when he wrote of whites and blacks.
They don’t understand any deeper concepts, subtext or meaning because they are caught up in a blisteringly stupid modern lens that sees everything through melanin colored classes (glasses of color?)
Forget the etymology of it all. Forget history, language, and millennia of culture.
Black and white MUST refer to skin color, even though few Englishmen had even SEEN a brown person (and visa versa).
Forget that every language develops the color words for white and black first, which really mean light and dark, day and night.
Forget that the night and the dark were real, actual dangers back then, and that literal monsters lurked in the dark. Things with teeth and claws that would rip your throat out, or bandits willing to slit it.
And the light of the campfire or the in meant some safety, or at least being able to see what was around you, because light dispels the shadow and all the terrors that lurk within.
Forget that in nature, light, or white, most often means healthy and good and safe. You bite into an apple and see white, you keep eating. You bite and see the Darkness of rot and decay, you spit it out.
Spreading mold, disease, dead crops, burnt fields...all darkness. Blackness. Shadow.
And the light is what keeps the dark at bay.
But, obviously, a centuries dead Englishman was talking about skin color when he wrote of whites and blacks.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 12:34 pm to fr33manator
Excellent take.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 12:37 pm to Geekboy
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Shakespeare was a racist
Well if he was white, then he was.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 12:39 pm to fr33manator
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Methinks a shite I giveth not,
If those who’ve long succumbed to rot,
‘Cause Karens clutching pearls to frown,
I’d rather bigot be, than clown.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 12:40 pm to Geekboy
I’m a little dusty on my Elizabethan Era fashion, but does Shakespeare coincide with the time that aristocrats would powder their faces with white makeup to look really pale and ghostly?
I don’t think it has anything to do with race, but rather the awful fashion trend of 16th century England and Europe.
I don’t think it has anything to do with race, but rather the awful fashion trend of 16th century England and Europe.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 12:40 pm to fr33manator
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Just Othello the Moop.
Who was a good guy. Iago was the villian.
But most clown world types are proudly ignorant and don't know any better.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 12:40 pm to NPComb
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Well if he was white
Posted on 5/22/21 at 12:41 pm to Rougarou4lsu
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I would like to pound the word problematic into oblivion.
My bane is the word "historic" which has been done to death by the white girl mafia.
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