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re: Severe weather threat for Today/Tomorrow across the SE All severe modes possible

Posted on 2/16/23 at 3:10 pm to
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
64516 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 3:10 pm to
Worked out well for us here, little wind, little hail, nothing crazy

Prayers for everyone that's still gotta deal with it
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51708 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 3:25 pm to
Storm mode looks awful messy across central and south MS into Alabama.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
64516 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 3:32 pm to
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tDoctor Jerry Punch of weather,


I did not foresee that name coming up in one of our weather threads but here we are

Dude was good at his job and was, and likely forever will be, the only guy to perform medical duties and pit reporting duties during the same race
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 3:39 pm to
Which is a good thing, right?
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177321 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 3:43 pm to
Weaker than expected forcing (heights aren’t falling) and terrible lapse rates are making this a sloppy mess.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51708 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

Which is a good thing, right?

Yes. You can have too much convection which makes it hard for any one storm to get going. Like tBoat said, too much forcing, poor lapse rates, etc. can lead to a sloppy mess.

That said, this isn’t over. As the sun sets, we tend to get better shear as the jet stream approaches, so things could change later.
This post was edited on 2/16/23 at 3:48 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75135 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 3:46 pm to
quote:

Which is a good thing, right?

Yep. Looks like the cap held long enough to limit storms out ahead of the front,and overall storm motion hasn't been the best to take advantage of the shear we had. Most updrafts have struggled today and have become outflow dominant before they could really get going. They then try the whole cycle again, but have more or less the same result.

If we can get this line through the western third of Alabama without seeing an uptick, we'll be good.
This post was edited on 2/16/23 at 4:40 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75135 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

Weaker than expected forcing

What's surprised me the most is that we've seen very little of the pre-frontal confluence bands that the HRRR really favored. Not having those to force storms early and erode the cap, plus the lingering cloud cover, kept the warm sector clear.
Posted by footswitch
Meridianville, Alabama
Member since Apr 2015
4698 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 3:51 pm to
Amen
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51708 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 3:54 pm to
Pretty strong rotation approaching Smithville, MS.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51708 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 3:54 pm to
Confirmed tornado approaching Smithville, MS.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31578 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 3:55 pm to
Cold front isn't strong enough to have really bad shite. Probably a lot of thunderstorms though.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51708 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 3:56 pm to
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177321 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 3:58 pm to
That’s what we would have seen farther south if there wasn’t this mess. Once you get north of Columbus it clears out and everything can breathe.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75135 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

Pretty strong rotation approaching Smithville, MS.


That hurts me.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15751 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:01 pm to
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Confirmed tornado approaching Smithville, MS.


WTVA (Matt) - Tupelo just showed a pic of Smithville tornado sent in by viewer. It was a big one. The tornado was a little north of Smithville.
This post was edited on 2/16/23 at 4:02 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75135 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:01 pm to
Posted by NEALCD
Member since Feb 2019
243 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:02 pm to
I know it doesn't happen as often as what I think it does but when everything doesn't pan out like forecasted and it gets messy as soon as I let my guard down just a little it gets to Jackson County and bam it ramps up.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51708 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:03 pm to
Smithville storm seems to be cycling now.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75135 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

Smithville storm seems to be cycling now.

Let's watch and see. It was a stout tornado, but brief. Hopefully it isn't a cycle and that updraft falls apart.
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