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re: Settle a drunken argument: Tyson vs Bruce Lee no holds barred KO match
Posted on 2/14/14 at 9:35 pm to Freauxzen
Posted on 2/14/14 at 9:35 pm to Freauxzen
quote:That's what I've been thinking all along. I've been in fights, like real fights. they last about 10 seconds. Either Bruce will debilitate Tyson right off the bat or Tyson will get in close and beat him to a pulp.
Whoever gets the most vicious attack in first wins.
I'm about 55/45 Lee over Tyson because (Even though I don't have HD video evidence of his training) I think Lee was a martial arts master. I know plenty of them in Shreveport who are quite capable of ending a fight in one move if they had too.
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Posted on 2/14/14 at 9:36 pm to bird35
quote:Didn't Bruce Lee get into an actual fight once on set?
Is there any video of Lee in a real, non-scripted, fight?
Posted on 2/14/14 at 9:36 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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Sorry reading comprehension is hard for you. I clearly mentioned arenas in te response.
Why are you completely editing your posts? And my education is UDub. Not that it matters, but it seemed like a point of contention for you.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 9:37 pm to prplhze2000
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Tysons also fought when the heavy weight division was at its weakest
I am still on the Lee bandwagon but a prime Tyson would have dominated any era. I really wanted to see Tyson defeat Lennox but the after prison Tyson was nothing compared to his run in the late 80's.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 9:38 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
quote:
So the arena has no bearing on the fight? Okay
And you're blasting my reading comprehension?
Posted on 2/14/14 at 9:39 pm to Goldrush25
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I don't care how much you train a 135 pound body it's still going to get destroyed by a flush hit from prime Tyson.
This. Tyson's blocks would be serious trouble for Lee. Like an Anderson Silva leg kick Chris Wideman.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 9:40 pm to MWP
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JKD guys stress not fighting your opponents game. Like not boxing a boxer, not grappling with a grappler, and not kicking with a MT guy. Lots of times you are not going to know this in a straight out street fight but JKD has 3 ranges of fighting. High, middle, and low. You attack the range that the fighter is not in. You let your offense be defense until your opponent shows you his hand so to speak. So, in a Bruce Lee vs Tyson fight, Bruce would probably focus highly on taking out Tyson's nuts, knees, or feet.
Bingo. That's not "romantic" to think about for guys. They want "honor" of a fist fight, an exchange. If Tyson fought Lee and tried to play by "Boxing" rules while Lee didn't, that's almost a definite win for Lee if he's maiming and going for the nuts/stomping the feet. This has little to do with strict boxing outside of the ability to recognize space, footwork, and positioning.
Saying that Tyson's pure strength comes into play, other than his ability to maybe land one solid blow, is misguided. His durability sure as heck does though.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 9:41 pm to alajones
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I know plenty of them in Shreveport who are quite capable of ending a fight in one move if they had too.
Off topic, but no fricks given in a 30+ page thread over a dead guy fighting a retired boxer. Are there any good BJJ schools in Shreveport? I work up there from time to time and drive to my buddies place in West Monroe to train because I can't find a school up there. Just thought I would ask since you seem to know about martial arts.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 9:41 pm to WM
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Tyson's blocks would be serious trouble for Lee
That's a good point and makes me wonder. Bruce Lee was freak fast. You'd almost think Tyson would have to be constantly on guard because as fast as he is from his boxing training and such, I still don't think Tyson could match Lee in hand speed.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 9:42 pm to alajones
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That's what I've been thinking all along. I've been in fights, like real fights. they last about 10 seconds. Either Bruce will debilitate Tyson right off the bat or Tyson will get in close and beat him to a pulp.
Agree 100%
quote:
I'm about 55/45 Lee over Tyson because (Even though I don't have HD video evidence of his training) I think Lee was a martial arts master. I know plenty of them in Shreveport who are quite capable of ending a fight in one move if they had too.
This. Tyson, if he's smart (and that's debatable), should also be doing the same thing, not trying to "box" his way to victory.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 9:43 pm to Freauxzen
I don't think Tyson is beyond getting dirty in a street fight. As a matter of fact, I think he excelled at it.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 9:43 pm to danman6336
Lee can play ping pong with Knut chunks, so Tyson
Posted on 2/14/14 at 9:44 pm to MWP
In their primes, Ali, Holmes, Norton, Louis, foreman, would've beaten or.knocked out tyson. Frazier and liston would ve been tossupd
Posted on 2/14/14 at 9:45 pm to prplhze2000
quote:
In their primes, Ali, Holmes, Norton, Louis, foreman, would've beaten or.knocked out tyson. Frazier and liston would ve been tossupd
This would be a much better debate.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 9:45 pm to prplhze2000
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Ali, Holmes, Norton, Louis, foreman, would've beaten or.knocked out tyson.
You are fricking on crack.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 9:47 pm to EA6B
quote:A big part of being a bouncer is intimidation, much more effective from a huge guy than a smaller guy even if the smaller guy is 10x more badass.
In my youth I hung out in bars all over the world, never saw a 135lb MMA fighter as a bouncer, always a 6'3" or more 280lb bruiser.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 9:49 pm to prplhze2000
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In their primes, Ali, Holmes, Norton, Louis, foreman, would've beaten or.knocked out tyson. Frazier and liston would ve been tossupd
bullshite. Not saying he'd go undefeated, but Tyson in his prime was as good as any ever. Unfortunately, we didn't get to see Ali in his prime years as he was banned. Would have loved to see him during those years.
And he'd kill BL. Not even an argument.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 9:49 pm to StrangeBrew
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Lee can play ping pong with Knut chunks, so Tyson
That was fake.
Also, interesting to remember even MMA has to play by rules. Bruce Lee's first martial art was Wing Chun. It's not practical in real fights as Bruce realize but many elements are still useful(close combat, intercepting, you see a lot of this in his movies but it's great IRL too, look up 12 Hand Pak Sao by SifuEvangelos on YouTube).
Wing chun wouldn't be allowed mainly because it's geared around ending confrontation FAST. Lots of fingers to the eyes, throat, shite to break the nose. You'd never see it in competition because it just isn't humane to do those things other than in life or death matters. This is what Bruce built around(see the Ip Man movies, about his Master).
Now I'm not saying other MMA styles aren't meant to do the same, but with wing chun there is NO in-between.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 9:49 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:
Why are you completely editing your posts? And my education is UDub. Not that it matters, but it seemed like a point of contention for you.
Edited cause I didn't mean to be such an arse. Just a small arse.
This post was edited on 2/14/14 at 9:52 pm
Posted on 2/14/14 at 9:50 pm to SmackoverHawg
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And he'd kill BL. Not even an argument.
You are drunk.
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