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Serious question about execution by lethal injection

Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:43 pm
Posted by Geekboy
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:43 pm
Why is there any controversy? Why would lethal injection get botched? Why would there be any pain at all?

If they put you under for an open heart procedure….YOU ARE OUT!!!! They saw your chest open! Zero pain. So why is there an issue with lethal injections?

Once you’re under they should be able to inject you with Drano and you won’t feel anything. Please, somebody explain why there are issues.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
150398 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:44 pm to
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somebody explain why there are issues
Covid
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
40504 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:44 pm to
You are killing someone. There will always be controversy no matter how it’s done.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
58319 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:45 pm to
What the frick does heart surgery have to do with this
Posted by HillabeeBaw
Hillabee Reservoir
Member since May 2023
2306 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:46 pm to
I say just give people on death row the clot shot.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:46 pm to
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Why would lethal injection get botched?


Clogged lines. Air in the line that could cause a terrible and non humane death.

Not administering the drugs properly although I believe it’s automated now.

Thats why bullets are easier
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
153720 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:47 pm to
I kinda take issue with it being painless.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
102278 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:48 pm to
A lot of those guys have bad veins from drug abuse. No medical professional will do it so it's amateurs trying to establish an IV line. Some people react differently to different drugs. A lot of reasons.

Hanging or firing squad would actually be more humane but lethal injection is less disturbing to the spectators and that's what it's really about.
Posted by Mushroom1968
Member since Jun 2023
3671 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:48 pm to
There’s been issues with getting IVs established. They may go out but when receiving the drug that kills them, have had seizures, may not die right away or “peacefully” Personally I’m against the death penalty.
Posted by exiledhogfan
Missouri
Member since Jul 2021
1276 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:48 pm to
I'm no expert, but I think the big thing is doctors won't have anything to do with it because of their oath.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
12994 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:50 pm to
wouldn't it be cheaper just to knock them out like they are going under for surgery then pull out a pistol and shoot em in the head? why use fancy chemicals??
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
150398 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:52 pm to
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doctors won't have anything to do with it because of their oath
to not perform euthenasia, as in the original Hippocratic Oath?
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
102278 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:52 pm to
Inert gas is the way to do it. My cousin was married to a guy who went in to inspect a pressure vessel that hadn't been purged of argon. He was gone in about 15 seconds.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11963 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:53 pm to
There are no regulations on lethal injection, just some prison trained baws do it, a team of them. Doesn't have to be a doctor, nurse, nothing special. That is why it gets botched.

I don't have any moral qualms for someone dying for their actions, but I do not trust the government with the power to kill its own citizens. Giving them that power is too much and a slippery slope towards killing your political enemies.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21824 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:53 pm to
The biggest reason for the controversy is because pharmaceutical companies are refusing to provide the drugs they would use during heart surgery to make it painless. So the prisons are obtaining other drugs that still get the job done in not quite as efficient manner.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
150398 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:54 pm to
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wouldn't it be cheaper just to knock them out like they are going under for surgery then pull out a pistol and shoot em in the head?
Posted by LCA131
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Member since Feb 2008
75019 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:54 pm to
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My cousin was married to a guy who went in to inspect a pressure vessel that hadn't been purged of argon. He was gone in about 15 seconds.


So.,. Is she still on the market?
Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
21140 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:55 pm to
Knock them out and hook them up to an exit bag. If old people can do it themselves, surely a group can set it up.
Posted by biohzrd
Central City
Member since Jan 2010
5741 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:56 pm to
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I say just give people on death row the bullet to the back of the head.


Fify
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
102278 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:57 pm to
She remarried to a guy who turned out to be bipolar. He ran through all her settlement money buying stupid shite. She's fat anyway, but with ozempic there's always hope.
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