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re: Self-driving cars: ethics and economic concerns
Posted on 12/29/16 at 8:48 pm to LSUBoo
Posted on 12/29/16 at 8:48 pm to LSUBoo
quote:I do agree, but it's certainly relevant to THIS discussion.
It's irrelevant really, it would be able to detect obstructions, will detect the size of the object, and will be able to tell whether the obstruction is stationary or moving
If it can't detect whether an object is human, then no one could ever argue the ethical element of it.
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Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:30 pm to UF
Exactly my point! People focus on the jobs lost because that's what they can see. They can't imagine all of the ancillary jobs that are created with innovation.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:41 pm to shel311
I am okay with the box. My alias is Grandbaw. But Half of the people on this board would go insane not being able to slam that pedal down on a whim and rocket their away around the streets, roads, Hwys, of America. Might as well take their guns away. We talking about taking away the big boy toys here son!
Posted on 12/30/16 at 10:26 am to reb13
quote:Uber would just be a middleman. A lot of people expect the auto manufacturers themselves to maintain large commercial fleets.
Huh? They are a leader in self driving cars. Their whole game plan is to use people to be uber drivers until they can go full autonomous.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 11:25 am to seawolf06
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People focus on the jobs lost because that's what they can see. They can't imagine all of the ancillary jobs that are created with innovation.
This time is different. Machines are continuing to improve the realm of things they are good at, but humans are not. This isn't going to hit one industry at a time and give people time to recover and acquire new skills to move to other industries like it has in the past. We are talking about machines getting so capable that they will render 30% or more of humanity worthless to the economy in the span of a decade or 2.
We aren't taking humans completely out of the equation because the customer is a human, but we are moving to more of a self service economy. Think of the self service checkouts, instead of 10 cashiers running 10 lanes you need 1 human supervising and trouble shooting 10 self checkouts.
This is going to applicable across most industries, from retail to professionals like doctors/lawyers/accountants/etc. Unless we plan to merge with machines, something that is certainly possible, we are going to permanently be inferior to the machines in many of the things we currently do to "earn a living".
Posted on 12/30/16 at 11:52 am to TigerinATL
quote:Yep. And as the machines get better and better, we'll have to worry about the ethics of the machines (a la the topic of this thread.)
This is going to applicable across most industries, from retail to professionals like doctors/lawyers/accountants/etc. Unless we plan to merge with machines, something that is certainly possible, we are going to permanently be inferior to the machines in many of the things we currently do to "earn a living".
Posted on 12/30/16 at 2:45 pm to Big Scrub TX
Posted on 12/30/16 at 3:12 pm to Big Scrub TX
My question is if and when there is an accident between 2 self driving cars. One will be at fault.
Is the manufacturer supposed to cover this? For how long? For the life time of the car? What if the car is hacked and that causes an accident?
Is the manufacturer supposed to cover this? For how long? For the life time of the car? What if the car is hacked and that causes an accident?
This post was edited on 12/30/16 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 12/31/16 at 8:53 am to labratz
quote:It's certainly a good question.
My question is if and when there is an accident between 2 self driving cars. One will be at fault.
Is the manufacturer supposed to cover this?
But if it's decades from now and all cars are truly autonomous, I have a hard time thinking the car owners will need insurance and have to pay for it themselves. It would have to be the manufacturer, I'd think. That being said, that cost, of course, will be transferred to the owners by a huge increase in the cost of the vehicle.
That would be my guess.
Posted on 12/31/16 at 6:43 pm to labratz
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My question is if and when there is an accident between 2 self driving cars
The owners will still be liable.
Posted on 12/31/16 at 6:50 pm to Big Scrub TX
I have ZERO doubt that autonomous cars will make the roads safer than they are now.
These hypotheticals talking about moral dilemmas in specific 1 in a million situations arw just stupid and mean nothing when compared with the number of accidents prevented and lives that will be saved in the grand scheme.
These hypotheticals talking about moral dilemmas in specific 1 in a million situations arw just stupid and mean nothing when compared with the number of accidents prevented and lives that will be saved in the grand scheme.
This post was edited on 12/31/16 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 12/31/16 at 6:54 pm to SanFranTiger
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driverless cars will create an organ shortage
Means nothing. Trading one life for another. It equals out.
Posted on 12/31/16 at 7:44 pm to SG_Geaux
Things I enjoy that I don't want to give up or have disappear for my kids:
1. tinkering with auto engines and antique cars as a hobby.
2. driving a sports car and feeling the rush of acceleration and hugging a curve.
3. driving a four-wheeler in the woods or on a trail just for the fun of it.
This Utopian existence sounds pretty shitty in some regards. Pretty awesome in others.
1. tinkering with auto engines and antique cars as a hobby.
2. driving a sports car and feeling the rush of acceleration and hugging a curve.
3. driving a four-wheeler in the woods or on a trail just for the fun of it.
This Utopian existence sounds pretty shitty in some regards. Pretty awesome in others.
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