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re: Seeing a lot of restaurants are having trouble hiring workers

Posted on 5/3/21 at 10:32 am to
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35513 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 10:32 am to
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God damn that "government" making workers disloyal and uppity.


Everything you just listed is government interference in the market, from the government stimulus down to the required minimum wage.

So yes, these are government caused issues.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38717 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 10:34 am to
Lol, what extra revenue? Food costs have gone up significantly over the years. Insurance premiums are a bitch because everyone plays the lottery for free. The tools needed for the job have gotten more experience. The employment pool isn't the sharpest and We have to spend more on training because it takes longer. I could keep going and going.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 10:34 am to
Plenty of stuff costs more. Just look at the historical value of meats off the usda website. Beef has gone up considerably over the last few decades. You could probably throw in the usual taxes, electricity, equipment, etc on top of it.

The mcdonalds owner I dont think is doing as well as it's being implied here
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 10:35 am to
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This isn't true, no matter how many times people say it.




I've been wondering if there has actually been any studies into this current situation, or even investigative reports, or if we're all just going on the assumption that everyone is sitting at home drawing unemployment. I'm sure several are, but it stands to reason there are other factors at play here.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35513 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 10:35 am to
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So they're all holding out for the places that pay more to open up.


Waiting for places to open up? Why were they closed to begin with, if not for government interference?

You have an odd way of arguing that government interference is not causing these problems.
Posted by Codythetiger
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
30436 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 10:36 am to
The dodge store in my little town is giving a signing bonus + bi weekly bonus with an interview. Interviews said they would be conducted same day, no app necessary

They pay a total of 30k a year... wtf would you work for 30k when you can get 50k in unemployment?

These stores can't outpay the government

Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38717 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 10:37 am to
UBI is here folks
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35513 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 10:38 am to
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UBI is here folks


BI is here. There is no U. There is nothing universal about it.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 10:40 am to
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If it's an entry level position and you need me there fully engaged and working my arse off, that criteria alone has increased the wage. If you want me to work for $12 an hour you should expect me to be disengaged, on my phone checking my school work for the day, apathetic, and to miss shifts when I don't feel like working.


They don't think it be like it is but it do.
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 10:42 am to
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Waiting for places to open up? Why were they closed to begin with, if not for government interference?


I'm not talking about Covid closures, I'm talking about hiring sprees.

I just lost one of my best workers to Home Depot. She was making $10.30 @25 hours/wk here after 2 years as one of our best workers, got hired there for $12/hr @40 hours/wk + benefits for doing the exact same job.

Lowes, Home Depot, Wal-Mart, Target, Amazon Warehouses, Best Buy anyone who is paying top dollar for entry level workers is absolutely feasting on talent right now. REI, Patagonia, Amazon all sorts of online retailers hiring remote call center positions are feasting on talent right now. Sit at home in your pajamas and tell customers their shite got lost in the mail for $15/hr.

This isn't one boss, one store, one company, one city. Entire industries have ignored wages and employee experience for 10, 20, 30 years - this is the end result. No one wants to work there. Half the population looked at Covid and said why am I even working at all when I can stay home and take care of my family?
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 10:43 am
Posted by Cajunhawk81
Member since Jan 2021
2511 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 10:48 am to
Almost seems like the governments closures tied small businesses hands behind their backs, and allowed the behemoths to overpay to steal their workforce. Hmm. Now where else can you get good and services? That's not feasting on "talent"...that's outright theft.
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 10:50 am to
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Almost seems like the governments closures tied small businesses hands behind their backs, and allowed the behemoths to overpay to steal their workforce. Hmm. Now where else can you get good and services? That's not feasting on "talent"...that's outright theft.


Small business was impacted the most as a direct result of bribery by behemoth corporations, but everyone but the few are being bitten by the labor issue.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35513 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 10:51 am to
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Small business was impacted the most as a direct result of bribery by behemoth corporations, but everyone but the few are being bitten by the labor issue.


Government interference.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41547 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 10:53 am to
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It's absolutely his business for a multitude of reasons. It's anyone who owns any stock too. There's a reason management compensation has to be disclosed.


If we're going to pretend like exec pay has no effect on the broader economy, then shite.......
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35513 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 10:58 am to
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You sound like an idiot.


You're the one trying to make some connection between the compensation of a dishwasher and a CEO.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 11:06 am to
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You're the one trying to make some connection between the compensation of a dishwasher and a CEO.




Am I?

Or are you just too simple to actually understand what I was saying?
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 11:09 am to
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Government interference.


Your absolute refusal to acknowledge the copious amounts of retarded and downright exploitive practices of corporations against workers points to a terminal case of Chamber of Commerce brainwashing, as if corporations have no autonomy, as if they themselves don't initiate and comprise the same government forces interfering in the market.

You and your ilk are exactly what poisoned Millineals and Zoomers into their current attitudes. Congratulations.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 11:14 am to
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Your absolute refusal to acknowledge the copious amounts of retarded and downright exploitive practices of corporations against workers points to a terminal case of Chamber of Commerce brainwashing, as if corporations have no autonomy, as if they themselves don't initiate and comprise the same government forces interfering in the market.

You and your ilk are exactly what poisoned Millineals and Zoomers into their current attitudes. Congratulations.


You're absolutely right. Government interference, especially in the last 15 months is certainly a contributing factor, but being willfully ignorant to the other factors is idiotic.

Why would someome want to work shite hours, either opening a fast food joint at 4 or 5 in the morning or closing in the middle of the night, for almost certainly a terrible manager for no money?

In large cities you can make your own hours driving for Uber and food/grocery delivery and make $50 a day walking peoples dogs for Rover. The money comes to you untaxed and you probably make more of it.

The continued emergence of the gig economy due to Covid is a huge factor for struggling retail and the like.
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 11:17 am
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
150361 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 11:17 am to
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A LOT of repair companies I know have turned to paying shop labor under the table just to get them to work. Thing is they collect full unemployment and get paid.
if you don’t report this, you are part of the problem
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35513 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 11:23 am to
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Am I?

Or are you just too simple to actually understand what I was saying?


I understand fully. It was just a moronic statement.

Worrying about what someone else makes, whether it's the worker next to you or the CEO, is poison. Make the most you can, or quit. If you need to use another person to justify your worth, then your worth is not much.

This has nothing to do with a shareholder's interest in the compensation of officers in a publicly traded company.

You trade to conflate the two, which is moronic.
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