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re: SCOTUS poised to overturn ruling that declares homeless encampments a legal right

Posted on 4/22/24 at 5:27 pm to
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 4/22/24 at 5:27 pm to
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Life is hard on every fricking body. It is how we choose to overcome the hardships is what differentiates us from housed to homeless.


Bingo

This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 5:35 pm
Posted by BRbornandraised
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jun 2013
528 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 5:27 pm to
I like how the choices here are put them in jail or let them in my house lol
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
37359 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 5:28 pm to
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Send 'em to Ukraine to fight the Russian horde and earn citizenship.


Ukraine can use them like Russia uses the prisoner units that are basically sent out to take fire and expose positions.
This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 5:29 pm
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71383 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 5:28 pm to
Cool I'm against all of those as well, let's get cancelling them too.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71383 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 5:29 pm to
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I like how the choices here are put them in jail or let them in my house lol


You're cool with them camping near other people's houses, individuals are just pointing out that you're a hypocrite.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
37359 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 5:30 pm to
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BRbornandraised


Let me know your address. I can find a few homeless on Siegen that would love a new place to destroy.
This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 5:30 pm
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
37359 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 5:32 pm to
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Round em up and let em hunt land mines in Ukraine.


This mental picture
Posted by BRbornandraised
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jun 2013
528 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 5:33 pm to
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You're cool with them camping near other people's houses, individuals are just pointing out that you're a hypocrite.


You obviously read none Of what I wrote. I said, either provide them with shelters or a place away from the general public Once they have those options and they still refuse to go there, then you can lock them up. I never said anything about letting them in camp near people
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
37359 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 5:37 pm to
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How much time have you spent around homeless? I was homeless for 4 months in East Honolulu. Worked maintenance at a start up in Tampa for a year. They are insufferable lying thieving pieces of shite. Let them frick heads in your house. You won't like it.


This. The vast majority of homeless torment the productive members of society (and businesses) until they eventually overdose or get smoked by a car. They destroy everything they touch and absolutely trash massive areas that someone else has to clean up once they get tired of the filth and move on to trash another area.

Look at the Keep TigerTown Beautiful Facebook page for weekly examples.
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
3878 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 5:47 pm to
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I like how the choices here are put them in jail or let them in my house lol


Dude, this case originated in Oregon and no state bends over backwards to accommodate the homeless like Oregon. The problem is that 98% of these people WANT to live like this - on the streets, in drug infested make-shift hovels surrounded by lunatics.

When I was growing up we had a dog. The dog could stay in the nice air conditioned house, sit on the couch and eat top shelf dog food. But the dog always wanted to go outside so she could roll around on some dead bird or squirrel, eat shite and basically get filthy. Because some dogs just don't like domesticated living.

I mention this because some humans are the same way. They're basically feral and they don't want to live in an orderly society.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
13365 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 5:49 pm to
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There wouldnt be a need for that if the state provided an area for them away from the general public or provide funding to shelters.


ah yes concentration camps for homeless folks good idea!
Posted by BRbornandraised
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jun 2013
528 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 5:52 pm to
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ah yes concentration camps for homeless folks good idea!


Well giving then 0 options except being put in a for profit jail is more akin to that. At least with shelters they can go voluntarily.
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
5692 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 5:53 pm to
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Essentially putting people in jail for being poor.


Let's do it!
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28301 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 5:54 pm to
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My family did just that for a family member when they were homeless during Katrina.

You think that’s the same? Bruh everybody took in displaced family after Katrina, Rita, Ida, etc.
A huge difference from housing transients.
Posted by BRbornandraised
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jun 2013
528 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 6:01 pm to
Nah I don’t. But there are people who can’t seem to read my post and realize that I never said “let them stay where they are on private property” and keep saying “let them into your house then you hypocrite!” I was just pointing out that I have let someone who is homeless into my house, And I do give to charity, it’s ok to disagree how our taxes are allocated. I think some money should go to shelters for these people rather than the for profit jails they are proposing to throw them in with no other option. I don’t think that’s crazy.
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
107571 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 6:06 pm to
1st off, you can’t isolate the homeless by putting them in camps far away from grocery carts and having nearby businesses to steal from. The zombies will just come right back to where they’re not wanted.

Homeless prisons are what’s needed where they can’t get out. Like others have said, there’s help for good people that are down on their luck. The homeless we’re talking about are not good people and shouldn’t be allowed to turn decent areas into blighted areas.
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1001 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 6:11 pm to
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either provide them with shelters or a place away from the general public


At what point is it the government's job to provide shelter? Why is a drug head more deserving of "free" housing than a man who is a productive member of society?

Our faith organizations run a lot of great shelters here, donate tons of food, etc., but these people do not want that. They want to tweak around town bombed out of their minds. It's disturbing on many levels.

You are either very young or you haven't spent much time around these types. It's a lifestyle, as weird as it seems to most functioning people.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9578 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 6:18 pm to
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ah yes concentration camps for homeless folks good idea!


Pretty much all homeless are on hard drugs or mentally unstable or both.

They purposely turn down housing opportunities so they can get drugs. So yes, they need sanitarium or as you say, concentration camps.

When my wife was a nurse in L.A. County (Torrance), they offered every single homeless person housing. Every single one. And every single one didn't want their disability check garnished because they needed drugs.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5702 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 6:43 pm to
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I never said I wanted that. I said you can’t give people 0 options except jail for being homeless. We should fund shelters to give people the ability to get out of homelessness and then you can lock people up if they are sleeping on the street.


They can take their chances outside of city limits. Being homeless is not illegal. There is at least one shelter and maybe another, and those homeless do not get arrested just for being homeless. Homeless don’t get arrested walking around during the day. The conduct of camping out and/or sleeping in public areas is what can get a citation for anyone.

Another article I read mentioned the original plaintiff said the city didn’t have a low barrier shelter, but it did have one shelter (and may have another since lawsuit first filed). The original shelter at time of suit was run by a church and had behavior requirements that homeless didn’t want to follow. I am not sure who runs anything new started since filing or what the county offers.

The homeless in Grant’s Pass have also filed another lawsuit against the city for encampment sweeps. Their ability to get legal representation is impressive, but what if those lawyers built a shelter or housing for their clients instead.






This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 6:50 pm
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98696 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 6:46 pm to
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Reopen psychiatric hospitals please


Ding
Ding
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Deinstitutionalization has been a complete fricking disaster compounded by: a) a pill for everything; and, b) politicization of mental health practice.
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