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Posted on 6/8/16 at 11:52 am to Salmon
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even Christian morality has evolved with society
Please be more specific. The Catholic Church is daily criticized for exactly the opposite.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 11:52 am to AUveritas
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Worked well in Stalinist Russia and Chairman Mao's China.
No it didn't. They simply injected themselves into their own dogma.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 11:53 am to AUveritas
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Please be more specific.
People cannot own other people anymore.
*edit
In our society, of course.
This post was edited on 6/8/16 at 11:54 am
Posted on 6/8/16 at 11:55 am to cas4t
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I read the article, and it is not definitive proof. Just because it is clear to a theoretical physicist, doesn't mean it's proven. It means he thinks it is proven.
Where did I ever say it was proven? In fact, more than once I've pointed out what you just said, namely that....
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he thinks it is proven
This thread was never meant to "prove" that God existed. All this thread has been about since I posted it was the fact a well respected and well known scientist says he has found proof of God.
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Honestly, if you'd just change the title then maybe we could discuss the subject matter within the article instead of having multiple pages of people telling you that it is not fact.
Again, where did I say it was fact? And as for the title, go back to the link I posted and look at the top of the page and you'll see where the title of this thread originated.
This post was edited on 6/8/16 at 11:57 am
Posted on 6/8/16 at 11:56 am to Argonaut
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I hope it's more complex than that.
Was hoping the "In short" made that clear. I don't have the time to compile a treatise on God, objective morality and the like.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 11:57 am to Darth_Vader
Michio Kaku is one of the most respected theoretical physicists in the world. His conclusion should not be taken lightly
This post was edited on 6/8/16 at 11:58 am
Posted on 6/8/16 at 11:58 am to Argonaut
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People cannot own other people anymore
Primarily because of Christianity.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 11:59 am to LoveThatMoney
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Michio Kaku is one of the most respected theoretical physicists in the world. His conclusion should not be taken lightly
And that's one of the main reasons I posted this thread. If it had been some random 9th grade science teaching saying what he's said, I'd have not given it a second look. But the fact it was him saying these things is what makes it interesting.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 12:00 pm to OMLandshark
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Yeah, it's called discovery and curiosity. The pillars of our existence that separates us from other animals. This is what smart people do and want. It is what got us the wheel and to the Moon.
You seem to think this is actually a bad thing. Yes I won't know everything when I die, but we will continue to discover things and press the species further well after I'm dead. This is much better to me than simply accepting that there was a big flood with 5 million animals on a boat built by a man from the Stone Age without any proof. This stagnate mentality would take mankind back to the Dark Ages overnight and back to witch burnings. I have proof of this simply by looking at the Middle East.
You present yourself as convinced that God does not exist. Why are you so enamored with proof, or the lack thereof?
And for the record don't try to make an argument where none exist. Nowhere did I say or suggest that discovery and curiosity are bad things. My suggestion (in reference to God) was that people who believe are not spending their time looking for proof, People who don't believe will continue to search for proof, or more correctly continue to exploit the lack of concrete "proof" as validation for their stance that God does not exist.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 12:00 pm to Darth_Vader
HAA!! I KNEW IT !!
SUCK IT, ATHEISTS !! SUCK IT HARD !!
Wait, what's become of me? I apologize. Please forgive my momentary lapse of kindness.
SUCK IT, ATHEISTS !! SUCK IT HARD !!
Wait, what's become of me? I apologize. Please forgive my momentary lapse of kindness.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 12:00 pm to Salmon
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correct
morality evolves with society
even Christian morality has evolved with society
Most Christians would state this differently.
Our understanding and applications of morality has changed. But from a Christian perspective, morality from God's perspective has never changed.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 12:00 pm to AUveritas
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Was hoping the "In short" made that clear.
That doesn't mean what you think it means.
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I don't have the time to compile a treatise on God, objective morality and the like.
Not necessary, but I figured with the volume you are posting, a few groups would be a reasonable expectation.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 12:01 pm to AUveritas
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Primarily because of Christianity.
Congrats on fixing your mistake.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 12:06 pm to Snipe
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You present yourself as convinced that God does not exist. Why are you so enamored with proof, or the lack thereof?
I actually think he or some form beyond our comprehension does exist. I'm just pretty sure that being doesn't give a damn about my sex life.
This post was edited on 6/8/16 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 6/8/16 at 12:07 pm to LucasP
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Descartes proved it over a century ago
"Descartes' ontological argument goes as follows: (1) Our idea of God is of a perfect being, (2) it is more perfect to exist than not to exist, (3) therefore, God must exist."
elegantly simple, except for one thing...what if God is not perfect? one substitution though makes this argument irrefutable
substitute "the natural world" for "god" and no other proof need apply
Posted on 6/8/16 at 12:13 pm to OMLandshark
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I actually think he or some form beyond our comprehension does exist.
So you think there is a God then?
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I'm just pretty sure that being doesn't give a damn about my sex life though.
That's a matter of faith. It's impossible to truly know the nature of God so we have to place our belief on not just his existence but also on who he is and what his thought process might be on nothing more than faith. But at the end of the day just as their belief is based on faith, so is yours. They base their faith on things like the Bible, Koran, Torah, or whatever holy texts they ascribe to. What do you base your faith on?
Posted on 6/8/16 at 12:15 pm to Argonaut
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Not necessary, but I figured with the volume you are posting, a few groups would be a reasonable expectation.
Lunchtime is over. In brief, I believe that God is the immutable source of objective morality and these moral prescriptions are innate in humanity. There have been scientific studies that show this to be true.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 12:19 pm to AUveritas
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In brief, I believe that God is the immutable source of objective morality and these moral prescriptions are innate in humanity.
Better.
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There have been scientific studies that show this to be true.
What studies have shown this to be true?
Posted on 6/8/16 at 12:22 pm to Argonaut
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