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re: School in gretna bans weaves

Posted on 8/21/18 at 10:00 am to
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 8/21/18 at 10:00 am to
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To play devils advocate..

Last time we had a thread like this, the exact opposite was happening. A black girl got in trouble for wearing her natural hair. She had curly hair, which on black girls grows into a kinky fro. If I recall, the school didn’t have a policy on hair length for girls with straight hair but they were measuring the curly black girl’s hair outwards since that’s how it naturally grows.
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Many here said “rules are rules” and stated that the girl’s natural curly fro was disruptive. Now we are implying weave is disruptive and that the girl’s should wear their hair natural. Which don’t get me wrong.. Brazilian hair down past your butt can be a bit much.

It’s just interesting that so much goes into hair.



That was a completely different issue and different rule involving nursing students. Nurses have different rules regarding hair, nails, etc., due to health and cleanliness concerns.

These are children we are talking about -- at a private school.

This post was edited on 8/21/18 at 10:31 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84766 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 10:03 am to
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Then say that. Why ban extensions? You can have extensions, or weaves, or sew-ins that are neither crazy or distracting.


Because prior to this year much of it was left up to the administration's discretion. They probably got tired of making determinations and went with one straightforward policy:

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Boys’ hairstyles may not cover their ears, eyebrows, or collar of their uniform shirts.
? Boys’ haircuts must be conventional: wedges, shaved heads, uneven cuts, shaved sides with longer tops, bowl cuts, tails, or lines showing in the hair will not be permitted.
? All haircuts must be blended, with no line or marked difference permitted.
? Boys and girls: only natural hair color is permitted: highlighting, dyeing, or any change in natural color is not permitted.
? Boys and girls: only the student’s natural hair is permitted. Extensions, wigs, hair pieces of any kind are not allowed.
? Girls’ hairstyles may not cover their eyebrows. (Headbands, barrettes, ribbons, etc. may be used by girls to hold hair back from the face.)
? Neither boys nor girls are allowed to spike their hair (faddish) or have sections of shaved hair.
? Boys are not allowed to have facial hair (mustaches, beards, sideburns below mid-ear, goatees, etc.)
? Students who do not adhere to the standards of Christ the King School will be sent home or given a specified amount of time for correction as deemed appropriate by the principal.
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 10:06 am to
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Then say that. Why ban extensions?


LOL, "Crazy, distracting hairstyles" is rather subjective and unenforceable. There have to be objective rules.
Posted by inmybasement
Texas
Member since Mar 2018
316 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 10:07 am to
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Time to tear down moar statues....


Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
Member since Oct 2017
6392 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 10:25 am to
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I don't agree with every single rule my kid's school has, but I agree to follow them. If something were to come up that I disagreed with, I'll pick up the phone and call the school office...not blast them on the internet.

Parents should've read the school handbook. The rule is pretty cut and dry.


The guy’s Facebook post indicates that he had discussions with the administration and they effectively told him “tough”.

Somehow, I suspect that if your kid’s school inacted some policy that arbitrarily made it tougher on some kids and your kid happened to be one of those affected, you wouldn’t just say, “oh well, sucks to be me”.

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And the archdiocese school superintendent said the school notified the parents last week that the girl's hair wasn't in compliance and yet they sent her back to school Monday with hair that wasn't in compliance with the rules. How is it the school's fault that the parents didn't read the handbook and then didn't fix the issue over the weekend after they were notified by the school last week?


If you have a decent stylist you’re not getting in with that person on a couple days notice.

Besides, the timing really isn’t even relevant. The guy’s beef is that it’s a dumb, arbitrary rule that affects primarily black girls. If they don’t want crazy styles it’s pretty easy to define that with just a little bit of thought.
Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
Member since Oct 2017
6392 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 10:29 am to
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Because prior to this year much of it was left up to the administration's discretion. They probably got tired of making determinations and went with one straightforward policy:


If the school is saying that they don’t want crazy styles, they should be able to define what that means instead of completely eliminating an entire hair care regime. At best, it’s pretty lazy on their part.

It’s like they believe that kids can’t have crazy styles with hair that they’ve grown.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84766 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 10:32 am to
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If the school is saying that they don’t want crazy styles, they should be able to define what that means instead of completely eliminating an entire hair care regime. At best, it’s pretty lazy on their part.


Yeah, probably, but that's what happens in schools these days.

Having a zero tolerance policy is much easier to enforce than subjective stuff. Imagine if this girl was sent home and there was no explicit ban on weaves/extensions. The shitstorm would be even worse.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41093 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 10:34 am to
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I was in planet fitness parking lot the other day in Birmingham, and there was weave hair, and weave debris EVERYWHERE on the ground. There must've been a major hood-rat rumble there the night before. It was unbeweavable.


My kids went to Vestavia here in Birmingham. We received videos every year from our kids of black girls fighting. Apparently, grabbing the weave is the first, go-to ghetto move.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21881 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 11:01 am to
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The guy’s Facebook post indicates that he had discussions with the administration and they effectively told him “tough”.


Well yeah. School has the rule clearly spelled out in their handbook and he's mad they won't change the rule for him.

Boys and girls: only the student’s natural hair is permitted. Extensions, wigs, hair pieces of any kind
are not allowed.


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Somehow, I suspect that if your kid’s school inacted some policy that arbitrarily made it tougher on some kids and your kid happened to be one of those affected, you wouldn’t just say, “oh well, sucks to be me”.
Years ago when she was in pre-K, she used to bring a Leapfrog toy tablet to school and then school made a rule that no devices with cameras were allowed. She was pretty upset when I told her she couldn't bring it to school anymore. Does that count?

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If you have a decent stylist you’re not getting in with that person on a couple days notice.

Superintendent's statement indicates that the parents told school they had made an appointment for Friday

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If they don’t want crazy styles it’s pretty easy to define that with just a little bit of thought.
Makes it much harder to enforce when you need to have administrators making judgment calls on what's too crazy and what's not. Then you're going to end up with problems because a parent might not think their kid's hairstyle is "crazy" but school might think it is. Or the whole "but so-and-so was allowed to have their hair a certain way" argument. Objective rules are so much easier to enforce and prevent accusations of discrimination or favoritism if one kid's style is allowed but someone else's isn't.

Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 11:04 am to
Private school but they are asking for it.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9335 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 11:14 am to
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School has the rule clearly spelled out in their handbook and he's mad they won't change the rule for him.


the biggest issue is that it was changed over the summer and he thinks it literally was changed for his kid
Posted by dixiechick
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 8/21/18 at 11:20 am to
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Posted on 8/21/18 at 11:25 am to
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This post was edited on 8/21/18 at 11:43 am
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
26497 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 11:26 am to
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If Christ the King accepts ANY govt funding they are screwed. Lawsuit coming.


No they're not...
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26720 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 11:27 am to
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A truly private school can get away this this. If Christ the King accepts ANY govt funding they are screwed. Lawsuit coming.


bullshite. Virtually all private schools accept some form of government funding.
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
5722 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 11:32 am to
Or go to a public school where they can do what they want to
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90472 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 11:33 am to
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A truly private school can get away this this. If Christ the King accepts ANY govt funding they are screwed. Lawsuit coming.



you can wear wigs, weaves and extensions at public schools?

This is acceptable there?

Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37483 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 11:35 am to
You are mistaken. There were rules limiting the length and overall size of hair on all nurses.

The woman in question’s hair was too large to be easily secured in order to ensure a sterile environment.

Had a white woman had too long of hair, she would have been told to cut it or get out just the same.
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90472 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 11:37 am to
fwiw, yall are talking to a girl that cant remember what she had for lunch yesterday
Posted by Scooba
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Posted on 8/21/18 at 11:38 am to
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