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re: Saying something is "Americanized" in a negative context

Posted on 6/27/16 at 8:30 am to
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16712 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 8:30 am to
You ever see those "Cajun" places in mall food courts that sell egg rolls. That's how people use Americanized.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16036 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 8:31 am to
We have managed to completely frick up two incredible things - Beer & Cheese.

Those are two "Americanized" things that are and should be used in a negative context.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 8:33 am to
The first one isn't usable anymore though
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16036 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 8:36 am to
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The first one isn't usable anymore though


You're correct sir. We are making ground on great beer and are all of sudden becoming surrounded by it, especially depending on where you live.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18912 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 8:39 am to
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Example: Chipotle peppers are a smokey mild pepper native to south america with a fair helping of heat.


Chipotle peppers are dry smoked jalapeños.

quote:

About 10 years ago, chipotle peppers were the "in" trend in food. Suddenly, every fast food item was "chipotle". However, their "chipotle" was actually a very weak mayonnaise sauce that lacked much of the bold flavor.


This has been currently replaced by Sriracha. Food fads in the states are ridiculous. Subway jumped on the avocado push, and I get annoyed when the sandwich artist "suggests" I put it on an Italian or Teriyaki sub.
Posted by RecordSetter
Member since Mar 2016
330 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 8:44 am to
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Soccer sucks?



The prime example...We call it Soccer
Posted by TigerattheU
Member since Aug 2006
3495 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 8:48 am to
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my coworker was talking about nude beaches in Greece and how beaches in America are so "Americanized"

At first I didn't realize that she was referring to places in the US as Americanized. As an American abroad, that makes my head hurt.

To me, "Americanized" means that western norms have arrived in another country in some fashion and the result is less palatable or authentic.
Posted by rcrdav24
Member since Jul 2015
85 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 8:51 am to
Still better than something being "Aficanized" (ex. Bees)
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18912 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 8:54 am to
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She's going on about all these weird people on Greek beaches made her feel uncomfortable doing weird stuff


I saw some interesting stuff on the beaches in Barcelona.

There was a mom that took her young daughter to go pop a squat in the surf zone. An old naked guy sat Indian style slicing an apple dangerously close to his junk. Later he got up and peed on the rocks near the water. Another guy was walking along the boardwalk using a cardboard box to shield his naked body as he made his way to the beach.

I never saw anything like that back in the States.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 8:59 am to
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Someone on this board posted something about Mexican food being "Americanized"


To be fair, authentic Mexican food is a lot better than Tex-Mex/"Americanized" food.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:00 am to
You can't talk about things in America as "Americanized". Of course American beaches are Americanized! Now, if you go to China just to eat KFC and do nothing else, I'd say you had a pretty Americanized experience of China.

This coworker sounds dumb as shite.
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
26818 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:00 am to
Americanized to me starts with soap, a shower, and deodorant. Those of you that have been in closed meeting rooms in Europe, especially late in the week, know exactly what I'm talking about.
Posted by Swoopin
Member since Jun 2011
22046 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:02 am to
We (well, a major segment of us) are a self shaming people.

Perfect example:

If you screw up pronunciation of a non-English name, and you say it in a typical American accent, you're considered to be uncultured and a bumpkin, maybe even insensitive.

But if someone from anywhere else in the world says your name in their accent, with improper vowel emphasis etc., it's endearing and a total non-event. Be they French or Burmese or Nigerian.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58498 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:02 am to
I think it came from the 80s and 90s then chains were rampant in the US. So when tourst destinations started to get Mcdonalds and other non local, american businesses that tourist destination had become Americanized. I remember we stopped going to Grand Cayman when they got their first Burger King.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:05 am to
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We have managed to completely frick up two incredible things - Beer & Cheese.

Those are two "Americanized" things that are and should be used in a negative context.


uhh, we brew great beer in America. As for the cheese, American cheese is the way it is so it doesn't separate when melted. Its great for grilled cheeses, melts, and cheeseburgers. But it's not like that's the only cheese made in America.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:07 am to
You can add plenty to that list. Indian, Chinese, Italian, etc.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58498 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:07 am to
He is an idiot for what he believes about beer. Exclude a few decades after prohibition, and America has brewed some of the best beers in the world.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:08 am to
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You can add plenty to that list. Indian, Chinese, Italian, etc.


True.

I usually use the "if the actual ethnicity eats there and makes up a sizable portion of the clientele" rule when trying to find good ethnic restaurants.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18912 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:14 am to
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The prime example...We call it Soccer


The term Soccer originated in the UK.
Posted by Darla Hood
Near that place by that other place
Member since Aug 2012
14108 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:16 am to
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1. What do you consider "Americanized" to mean?
Not authentic to the original. Changed to appeal to Americans (in food, the American palate).
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