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re: Saw a gutter punk OD last night (edited for people’s feelings)

Posted on 2/9/20 at 1:25 pm to
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
10837 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 1:25 pm to
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The solutions are societal and start 20 years before the problem.

The re-establishment of the importance of a strong family unit.
Get doctors to stop passing out opioids like candy.
Figure out whats happening to our mental health.
Take better care of our veterans.



Lemme know how that works....
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22549 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 1:27 pm to
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Lemme know how that works....



So you didnt want solutions. Gotcha. You wanted to beat your chest and bitch.

You didnt solve any problems with your Big Brother ideas.

Unless you think the problem isnt "we have people addicted to drugs and suffering from mental health issues" and is just "yuck i have to see these people"

This post was edited on 2/9/20 at 1:29 pm
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 1:28 pm to
If they are on the sidewalk, I kicked or stepped on their feet as I walked by.

Lower Decatur was basically a bed. Eventually get tired of walking over and around those motherfrickers.
This post was edited on 2/9/20 at 1:34 pm
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
10837 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 1:37 pm to
No I want real solutions....if the govt puts these people in rehab it would be a waste of time and money. Be real. What’s the success rate for a gutter punk going to rehab?

They aren’t veterans, so I have NO clue where you got that...but hey, it sounded good for the white knight.

They are all from out of town so our current policies along with our tourists, bring them down here. One of them probably has a trust fund and pays the rent in the Bywater while the others just squat. They have money for all forms of drugs and liquor. They supplement their addictions with tourist cash and when they are confronted they get aggressive. They abuse animals in broad daylight and cost taxpayers a metric ton of money to narcan and put back on the street.

Here’s my solution:

Get tough on them. Sidney Torres had the animal rights people walk with NOPD and round them up. They did this in 2015 but haven’t in a while for some reason. Round them up, arrest and process them slowly. So they don’t have their drugs. Make it painful.

Or

Buy them a bus ticket and give them $500 waiting for them in San Francisco

These people come from good family units for the most part....stop looking for the cause of the problem and fix it with tough policies.
This post was edited on 2/9/20 at 1:41 pm
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112932 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 1:38 pm to
Looks like you love you some gubment solutions
Posted by Finch
Member since Jun 2015
3240 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 1:41 pm to
Make narcan expensive and stop giving it to them for free

Once a couple die from not getting free narcan they will buy some to keep on hand, stop ODing, or die themselves.

At that point it is their choice
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
10837 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 1:41 pm to
Well, that’s what the govt is for...so....
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22549 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 1:43 pm to
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Looks like you love you some gubment solutions



You cant reason with his level of cognitive dissonance.

Hes a self described Conservative Christian whos solution is somehow both "frick these people" and "Get the government to round them up"

He also doesnt know what the term white knight means but he read it on the internet. He thinks i somehow care about these people and am championing them because i dont believe in putting everyone in jail lol.

quote:

quote:

The Levee


Well, that’s what the govt is for...so....


Well there you have it.

Dude, youre a Democrat. Go over there.
This post was edited on 2/9/20 at 1:44 pm
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112932 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 1:43 pm to
He’s the type of “conservative” who would applaud if Trump rolled out a plan for universal healthcare.
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
10837 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 1:44 pm to
So you don’t believe in law and order....gotcha
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 1:45 pm to
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Round them up, arrest and process them slowly. So they don’t have their drugs. Make it painful. 
..if only drugs werent in jail.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22549 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 1:47 pm to
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o you don’t believe in law and order....gotcha




I believe in limited law and order. And freedom.

Personal liberty until it infringes on others personal liberty.

And no, you dont have the fundamental right not to encounter the dregs of society.
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
10837 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 1:47 pm to
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only drugs werent in jail.


Yeah that would help
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
10837 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 1:48 pm to
Well then I’ve got one simple question for you

1. Are they breaking the law?
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22549 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 1:50 pm to
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1. Are they breaking the law?



I mean...i guess if they were doing drugs that werent prescribed to them?

But again....limited law and order. Thats what i believe in. We are well past that as a country.

Do you think we have a good criminal justice/prison system in this country?
This post was edited on 2/9/20 at 1:54 pm
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10342 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 1:53 pm to
No, the lowest form of society are the garbage who harm children and the elderly and prey on the innocent. The people you're talking about are mostly just harming themselves.
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
10837 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 1:54 pm to
I guess not. It’s just sad and I’m tired of talking about it.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69381 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 1:55 pm to
I get that they suck. But i say frick it. You go down to that you should expect drugged and drunks. Let em be. Thats why New Orleans and other similar places exist.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
114236 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 2:54 pm to
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I said, “that’s rich” and then got into a little exchange with the punks.


You deciding to engage with someone who is out of their mind says a little bit about you.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35510 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 2:59 pm to
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No I want real solutions.
quote:

if the govt puts these people in rehab it would be a waste of time and money.
quote:

Round them up, arrest and process them slowly.

Incarcerating drug addicts is the most expensive and least effective way to treat the problem.
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