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San Antonio becomes first city in Texas to raise legal age to buy tobacco to 21

Posted on 1/11/18 at 5:02 pm
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
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Posted on 1/11/18 at 5:02 pm
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San Antonio City Council today approved a new law prohibiting merchants in the city limits from selling tobacco products to anyone under 21 years old.
San Antonio is the first city in Texas to enact such a law. Five states and more than 280 cities in other states have approved similar measures.
The new ordinance, which city officials had been discussing since August, passed by a 9 to 2 vote. Council members Greg Brockhouse and Clayton Perry voted against the measure, questioning if the city should regulate such activity and expressing concerns that the new rules might financially harm smaller businesses.

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Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58631 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 5:03 pm to
Land of the Free.

"I can risk my life for this country but i cant smoke a joe?"
This post was edited on 1/11/18 at 5:04 pm
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 5:03 pm to
It's pretty stupid. County is much larger than city and it's not like you can't go across the street
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 5:10 pm to
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Land of the Free.

"I can risk my life for this country but i cant smoke a joe?"


I'm sure there's a military provision.

Its all horseshite though. Telling a 20 year old they can't buy cigarettes is just flat out un-american. Raise the tax, ban it in public areas, but what adults choose to spend their money on and do in the privacy of their own home is none of our goddamn business.
Posted by jennyjones
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2006
10005 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 5:12 pm to
How old do you have to be to buy weed these days?
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11833 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 5:19 pm to
So all the trashy smokers gonna run to Alamo Heights to buy now?
This post was edited on 1/11/18 at 5:20 pm
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70143 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 5:19 pm to
I don't see many in the military community following that
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37609 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 5:21 pm to
I don't think it's about government over-reaching here, and I'm politically moderate.

There was already an age restriction on it, they just raised it because of what we've learned about smoking and its effects. It's not unlike when the drinking age was raised from 18-21.

I'm sure there are some who think there should be no age restriction on those types of things (I thought this was America?!) but we need a modicum of "what's in the best interest of the public" mixed in there.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/11/18 at 5:21 pm to
There isn't a need for any provision. Just go to a different town.

Also, California as a State raised it to 21. Military bases such as Camp Pendleton has to follow state laws.

So, no even if Texas went to 21, I doubt there would be a provision.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 1/11/18 at 5:24 pm to
Louisiana > Texas
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 5:24 pm to
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There was already an age restriction on it, they just raised it because of what we've learned about smoking and its effects. It's not unlike when the drinking age was raised from 18-21.


Both are pretty stupid. It's not going to stop 19 year olds from smoking, it just makes them criminals.

If you're old enough to work or go to college, you're old enough to make your own decisions
This post was edited on 1/11/18 at 5:26 pm
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37609 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 5:26 pm to
quote:

Both are pretty stupid. It's not going to stop 19 year olds from smoking, it just makes them criminals.


I'm guessing the thought is that it will prevent some from starting in the first place. The ones who are in that age range that are already smokers? Agreed. But who knows, maybe it'll help some of those kids quit (teenagers see value in it when you tell them they can't do something, right?)
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61606 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 5:28 pm to
quote:

Both are pretty stupid. It's not going to stop 19 year olds from smoking, it just makes them criminals.

If you're old enough to work or go to college, you're old enough to make your own decisions
this. it's amazing how many people in this country simply don't value freedom
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 5:29 pm to
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teenagers see value in it when you tell them they can't do something, right?)


Call me old fashioned, but 18 is adult.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 5:29 pm to
quote:

because of what we've learned about smoking and its effects.


And yet San Antonio will happily take all the tobacco tax money it can get.

Hypocrites.0
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
5202 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 5:30 pm to
quote:

So all the trashy smokers gonna run to Alamo Heights to buy now?


I don't think there is a single gas station in the city limits of Alamo Heights. There IS one in Terrell Hills, if Terrell Hills goes along with this and bans it too, I don't know what the local Heights and Saint Mary's Hall kids are gonna do, I guess stop smoking blunts.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37609 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 5:30 pm to
quote:

Call me old fashioned, but 18 is adult.


So you'd prefer 18 as drinking age too?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 5:31 pm to
Absolutely.

Were regressive.
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
5202 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 5:32 pm to
78209 > any zip code in Louisiana
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 5:32 pm to
Yep I was going to mention the unfair tax they get.

Didn't know how to word it though. I'm sure it goes to the state and they receive it back, but shouldn't get the same as 18 sales.

When I bought them from there they were expensive anyways. Figured they'd be cheaper in Texas even with big city tax rates.
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