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re: Sam Katz handicapper on ESPN radio

Posted on 9/26/16 at 12:16 pm to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112430 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 12:16 pm to
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but the odds are not in your favor we have the worst defense ever
I wonder if the O/U takes that into account...
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
85408 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 12:40 pm to
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Geaux11



Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
117954 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 12:51 pm to
So far this year I an at 61% accuracy ATS. 49-29.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
102463 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 12:55 pm to
USA network used to have a show on Saturday mornings that had sports "analysts" talking about upcoming games. They'd talk about a game for 30 seconds, and spend five minutes promoting themselves. It was great.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
86671 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:03 pm to
I hope goldennugget isn't driving when he sees this thread. He's going to have a heart attack.
Posted by mkibod1
South of the Donna Dixon Line
Member since Jan 2011
4744 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:09 pm to
@shayhandicappin on twitter. Dude was legit with MLB and NBA.
Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
25389 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:10 pm to
All touts are lying pieces of scum who lie about their records. Every last one of them. There are no good touts.

The only people worse than touts are the retards who buy their picks and keep them in business. If you ever buy a pick from anyone you are a moron.

Go to www.vegaswatch.org and it's a blog dedicated to exposing lying touts.

Follow @vegaswatch and @groovinmahoovin on Twitter. These two guys are big time gamblers who are watchdogs that call out touts on their lies and deceit
Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
25389 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:14 pm to
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I've been using him for the past 3 years and he's a really good handicapper. Absolutely worth the price of admission once you're winning 70% of your picks you'll probably want to send him a Christmas present.

By the way his pick for tonight is the Falcons and the Under. Don't forget Katz' #1 Rule in the NFL "buy the hook or pay the crooks".


You are full of shite.

No one can hit 70% long term. Period.

Its hard enough being able to hit 52.4% of your plays. Factor in the cost you have to pay a tout for picks, you need to hit even higher than 52.4%. One lying piece of shite tout who goes by KellyInVegas charges $35 per pick. That's -EV for a $1000 bettor assuming her picks win, which they dont.

Oh and buying the hook is -EV in the long run.
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 1:15 pm
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36691 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:16 pm to
5 of last 7 saints-Falcons games have hit the under
Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
25389 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:19 pm to
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Generally, those guys give it one set of picks to half the callers and the opposite sides to the other half. Tmrw morning, half the people will think he's a genius and call back to buy picks. There's a reason it's the same commercial with a different pseudonym every year.


I worked at ESPN radio in las Vegas and that's exactly what these guys did. Sell both sides of the line. Those on the winner side didn't need convincing, they'd come back signing up for the season long package. Those on the losing side would get the hard sell. They would tell the losers "you really want to get serious? You dont sound serious enough. Call us back when you are serious" and hang up. The loser would call back and say i want to be serious and be upsold on a higher tier package featuring so called higher performing handicappers.

Its disgusting.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112430 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:48 pm to
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So far this year I an at 61% accuracy ATS. 49-29.
Solid work. Sample size is small and probably not sustainable, but solid work nonetheless.

I've chosen probably 30 or so CFB lines the past 2 weeks and hit at 59%, but that doesn't mean this next week won't be a total dud.
Posted by saintsfan225
Member since Aug 2014
195 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:49 pm to
I remember that, It was put on by Jim Feist, who has gone down as one of the biggest scam artist of all time.
Posted by Tail Dragger
Member since Aug 2012
344 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 2:27 pm to
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So go Saints and Over and you are golden!
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 2:49 pm to
Yea a friend of mine uses this tout maddux and he forwards me all the picks, im not kidding you cant get any of this a-holes lines. He sends an email and by the time you look its like 4 points higher and so my buddy emailed him and he says you just gotta shop around lol what a joke. This maddux 2 weeks ago had (2) 20 unit picks which are his ultra locks of the century and they were oklahoma at home and bears -3 LMFAO both lost
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6877 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:29 pm to
I like to call the number for their free picks, and when they request a call back number I leave them the details for a guy I don't like.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
22281 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:59 pm to
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Generally, those guys give it one set of picks to half the callers and the opposite sides to the other half.


This...I learned the hard way.
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
24868 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 4:02 pm to
Plenty of free touts on Twitter, never understood people paying for picks
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