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re: Sally - Moving towards Georgia - Potential for Significant Flooding

Posted on 9/13/20 at 10:01 am to
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 9/13/20 at 10:01 am to
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...SALLY EXPECTED TO STRENGTHEN TONIGHT AND MONDAY... ...LIFE-THREATENING STORM SURGE, HURRICANE-FORCE WINDS AND HEAVY RAINFALL EXPECTED ALONG PORTIONS OF THE NORTHERN GULF COAST STARTING ON MONDAY...
11:00 AM EDT Sun Sep 13
Location: 27.5°N 84.9°W
Moving: WNW at 12 mph
Min pressure: 998 mb
Max sustained: 60 mph
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
60255 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 10:01 am to
The Weather Channel
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 9/13/20 at 10:01 am to
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
39829 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 10:01 am to
poster above beat me to it
This post was edited on 9/13/20 at 10:02 am
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
64796 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 10:02 am to
Lots of red flaring up. Hopefully it doesn't get its shite together
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175388 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 10:02 am to
quote:

Downgraded to a CAT 1 and shifted West

That has more to do with timing and data points.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
146179 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 10:03 am to
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 9/13/20 at 10:04 am to
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Like in your area or your actual street?


My street and my area. There's a break in my street where parts of our neighborhood and a bank by us are on our own circuit. The buildings a few hundred ft from me have power but our neighborhood and the bank do not. Very frustrating.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175388 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 10:04 am to
Storm surge through the Rigolets is going to be large.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
94669 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 10:05 am to
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And Laura was supposed to bring 15-20 ft to Lake Charles. Unsurvivable, remember?


I don’t understand why all of you keep bringing this up. It was forecasted. It didn’t happen, THANK GOD. Does that mean storm surge won’t ever happen again?

This is the wrong message to send, IMO.
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
60255 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 10:05 am to
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Any states within a days drive that have live music in bars?
No idea. You may have to call hotels you’re thinking about booking and ask the concierge.
This post was edited on 9/13/20 at 10:06 am
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
146179 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 10:06 am to
quote:

133
WTNT44 KNHC 131457
TCDAT4

Tropical Storm Sally Discussion Number 8
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL192020
1100 AM EDT Sun Sep 13 2020

Although the center of Sally remains near the northwestern edge of
the deep convection, there is a large area of convection and some
banding evident over the southeastern portion of the circulation. An
Air Force Reserve Hurricane Hunter aircraft investigating the storm
this morning reported a peak 850-mb flight-level wind of 62 kt, and
believable SFMR winds of around 50 kt, and these data are the basis
for the 50-kt initial wind speed. The plane reported minimum
pressures in the 996-998 mb range, with the higher value being the
most recent information available.

Northwesterly shear continues over the cyclone, but this shear is
expected to decrease later today and tonight as Sally moves beneath
a narrow upper-level ridge axis. This more conducive upper-level
pattern is expected to allow the tropical storm to strengthen while
it moves over the north-central Gulf of Mexico tonight and Monday.
Most of the intensity guidance calls for Sally to become a hurricane
in about 24 hours and so does the official forecast. Additional
strengthening is expected after that time and Sally could be
slightly stronger at landfall than indicated below since it is
forecast to reach the coast between the 36 h forecast point and
48 h when it is inland over southeast Louisiana. The NHC intensity
forecast is close to the consensus aids through 24 hours and at or
just above the SHIPS, LGEM and HFIP corrected consensus aids at 36
and 48 hours.


Sally is moving west-northwestward at about 10 kt. The tropical
storm should continue on that general heading and speed over the
next 12 to 24 hours as it steered around the southern flank of a
mid-level ridge. After 24 hours, Sally is expected to be near the
western portion of the ridge which should cause the storm to slow
down and turn northwestward. The global models have trended toward
slightly more ridging over the northern Gulf during the next 24
hours, and the track guidance has edged westward. The NHC track has
been adjusted slightly westward and lies near the lastest run of the
GFS, but is not as far west as the ECMWF and the various consensus
aids. As Sally rounds the ridge in 48 to 72 h, the steering flow is
expected to be quite weak, and a slow northward motion is forecast
at that time. Afterward, a north-northeastward to northeastward
motion should commence as the cyclone moves in that direction ahead
of a short-wave trough.


Users are reminded to not focus on the exact details of the track or
intensity forecasts, as the average NHC track error at 36-48 h is
60-80 miles and the average intensity error is 10-15 mph. In
addition, wind, storm surge, and rainfall hazards will extend far
from the center. Unfortunately, confidence is increasing that
Sally's expected slow forward speed near the Gulf Coast will
exacerbate the storm surge and heavy rainfall threats.

KEY MESSAGES:

1. An extremely dangerous and life-threatening storm surge is now
expected, and a Storm Surge Warning is in effect for areas outside
the southeastern Louisiana Hurricane and Storm Damage Risk Reduction
System from Port Fourchon, Louisiana to the Mississippi/Alabama
border. Residents in these areas should follow any advice given by
local officials.

2. Hurricane conditions are expected by late Monday from Grand
Isle, Louisiana to Ocean Springs, Mississippi, including
Metropolitan New Orleans, with tropical storm conditions likely by
Monday. Preparations should be rushed to completion in those areas.

3. Sally is expected to produce flash flooding across southwest and
central Florida and prolong existing minor river flooding across
west-central Florida through Monday. Widespread significant flash
flooding and minor to isolated major river flooding is likely across
portions of the central Gulf Coast Monday through the middle of the
week, with flooding impacts spreading farther into the Southeast in
the middle to late parts of the week.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 13/1500Z 27.5N 84.9W 50 KT 60 MPH
12H 14/0000Z 28.0N 86.6W 55 KT 65 MPH
24H 14/1200Z 28.5N 88.2W 65 KT 75 MPH
36H 15/0000Z 28.9N 89.4W 80 KT 90 MPH
48H 15/1200Z 29.7N 90.2W 65 KT 75 MPH...INLAND
60H 16/0000Z 30.3N 90.5W 50 KT 60 MPH...INLAND
72H 16/1200Z 31.5N 90.3W 35 KT 40 MPH...INLAND
96H 17/1200Z 33.6N 88.3W 25 KT 30 MPH...INLAND
120H 18/1200Z 34.8N 83.8W 20 KT 25 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW

$$
Forecaster Brown
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91271 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 10:07 am to
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The lake was supposed to cover all of Lake Charles according to TWC and put houses underwater much like Katrina.


Y’all sound disappointed.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36439 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 10:07 am to
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I don’t understand why all of you keep bringing this up. It was forecasted. It didn’t happen, THANK GOD. Does that mean storm surge won’t ever happen again?


And it actually happen farther east.
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
10619 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 10:08 am to
Thats a lot of info. I just want to know if forecast track shifted any further west from 7 am to 10 am.

Anyone?
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
32080 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 10:08 am to
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Any rainfall total maps out there?

Posted by OvertheDwayneBowe
Member since Sep 2016
3447 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 10:09 am to
Some wild changes on the intensity forecasts.



HWFI at 06z was predicting it to peak at a Cat3, on the 12z, the same model has it peak as a TS.
Posted by BregmansWheelbarrow
Member since Mar 2020
3101 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 10:09 am to
Right? I don’t know how everyone else feels, but I’m glad it wasn’t any worse. Honestly can’t imagine how it could have been unless there was literally nothing left but building foundations.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 10:10 am to
Another shift west makes you wonder how far west it's going to track. That's a bad path right there.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
146179 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 10:10 am to
Tevin Wooten... who never takes part on leg day... is in NOLA
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