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Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:00 pm to Huey Lewis
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He mad
Triple S not honoring the 8 piece dark special any longer?
Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:00 pm to Huey Lewis
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Just FYI everybody...Gary is live on Facebook right now.
He mad
I have really enjoyed reporting all of his posts. Everytime I see one come down, I smile a little more inside.
Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:02 pm to LaBR4
I do believe the shot was ultimately justified.
But goodness, from the videos shown, I have to say I believe Salamoni was rightly fired. He came in guns blazing threatening to kill someone within 3 seconds on the scene. I dont think Alton was necessarily being violent or being particularly threatening. Yes, he should have just put his hands on the car. So he was in the wrong. But from my untrained eye who knows very little about police protocol. I do not believe Salamoni's takedown was necessary at all.
But goodness, from the videos shown, I have to say I believe Salamoni was rightly fired. He came in guns blazing threatening to kill someone within 3 seconds on the scene. I dont think Alton was necessarily being violent or being particularly threatening. Yes, he should have just put his hands on the car. So he was in the wrong. But from my untrained eye who knows very little about police protocol. I do not believe Salamoni's takedown was necessary at all.
Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:03 pm to rowbear1922
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This post was edited on 9/26/20 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:04 pm to Saltwatersoul04
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Did you not read my post?
Sure. 2 chicks and blah blah, 4 people total.
Did the 2 chicks that were closest to Sterling not get the frick out of the way immediately?
Would they have stuck around if the cops stood 10 ft away with guns drawn and told them to get on?
Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:04 pm to QJenk
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Who knows very little about police protocol
Ok. Thanks.
Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:04 pm to QJenk
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But goodness, from the videos shown, I have to say I believe Salamoni was rightly fired. He came in guns blazing threatening to kill someone within 3 seconds on the scene. I dont think Alton was necessarily being violent or being particularly threatening.
Except the part where he pulled a gun on someone and threatened them.
Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:04 pm to potent357
So is the argument centered around the tackle? That’s about the only part that could have been done differently by Blane imo.
Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:05 pm to ThatMakesSense
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Sure. 2 chicks and blah blah, 4 people total.
Just stop. Seriously.
Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:07 pm to ThatMakesSense
They got out of the way because the officers engaged AS. I'm pretty sure the point has been proven already it's ok to be wrong.
Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:07 pm to ThatMakesSense
1. No issues with Lake. He should not have received a suspension.
2. Salamoni - clearly not cut out for LE. Termination was the right decision.
3. Salamoni - escalated an already difficult situation. At a point when things were somewhat orderly, he introduced chaos with the tackle, rather than incrementally increasing control of the situation. Sterling is facing LE with hands in the air - Salamoni should have moved in with cuffs at that point or used his own taser if he had one, since the first shot seems to have hit Sterling in the arse and maybe wasn't very effective. Needed to shoot the taser in the shirt area to get into that skin.
4. On the ground looks like Lake has control of Sterling's left arm by placing his knee on it.
5. Can't see a move where it appears Sterling is reaching for anything. At first I was thinking Salamoni should definitely be up for manslaughter.
6. Looking further, I think proximity to the car hindered Salamoni in trying to subdue Sterling and if Sterling's arm was moving toward that pocket with the gun, he may have had no choice but to draw his weapon.
7. I see a civil trial in the near future for BR and Salamoni.
2. Salamoni - clearly not cut out for LE. Termination was the right decision.
3. Salamoni - escalated an already difficult situation. At a point when things were somewhat orderly, he introduced chaos with the tackle, rather than incrementally increasing control of the situation. Sterling is facing LE with hands in the air - Salamoni should have moved in with cuffs at that point or used his own taser if he had one, since the first shot seems to have hit Sterling in the arse and maybe wasn't very effective. Needed to shoot the taser in the shirt area to get into that skin.
4. On the ground looks like Lake has control of Sterling's left arm by placing his knee on it.
5. Can't see a move where it appears Sterling is reaching for anything. At first I was thinking Salamoni should definitely be up for manslaughter.
6. Looking further, I think proximity to the car hindered Salamoni in trying to subdue Sterling and if Sterling's arm was moving toward that pocket with the gun, he may have had no choice but to draw his weapon.
7. I see a civil trial in the near future for BR and Salamoni.
Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:07 pm to ell_13
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So is the argument centered around the tackle? That’s about the only part that could have been done differently by Blane imo.
Agreed. Should have put his back into it more. Body slam would have worked too.
Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:08 pm to ThatMakesSense
Hearing the Chief of Police's press conference speech, I'm highly impressed with him.
Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:09 pm to QJenk
The takedown would not have been necessary if the person suspected of threatening someone with a firearm would have complied initially. How many times does this have to be fricking said?
Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:12 pm to LaBR4
I just watched the police chiefs comments from his press conference. I thought he handled it very well. He talked about how the officer escalated the situation and did not follow protocol and policy. Then, and equally as importantly, he followed that up with a statement to the community to not run from the police and simply comply with police orders. He also said ‘ treat our officers with the respect they deserve and I can assure you they will reciprocate in the way they treat you’ .
Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:12 pm to ell_13
quote:I don't know where it is stemming from. The reason the tackle happened was because the POS was not following direct orders from two police officers. Sterling is the only one who coulda, woulda, and shoulda acted differently.
So is the argument centered around the tackle? That’s about the only part that could have been done differently by Blane imo.
Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:13 pm to Saltwatersoul04
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The takedown would not have been necessary if the person suspected of threatening someone with a firearm would have complied initially.
Not only this, but Sterling had multiple times where he could have prevented this. I say that, because he didn't budge on either.
I'll certainly agree Salamoni tackled him seemingly out of nowhere. But I'd also argue that I think Sterling was going to end up being tackled at some point.
Remember the whole gun draw on someone? Are we expected to honestly believe Sterling didn't know why the cops were there? Oh, let's not talk about the whole bootleg CD/ drug selling either.
Its not like he was walking down the street randmoly and legally. He knew damn well why the cops were there.
This post was edited on 3/30/18 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:15 pm to ell_13
The compliant was a person fitting AS description was threaten a person with a gun. The situation at the moment was elavated. One officer asked AS to place his hands on a car and he did not comply. Once AS shrugged off a taser charge, it all changed.
What was the next step after the taser charge when the suspect was reported with a gun and threaten someone with that very gun?
It is all about getting control and quickly.
Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:16 pm to baldona
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He knew damn well why the cops were there.
And he knew he was going to jail for a very long time.
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