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re: Salamoni-Terminated; Lake Suspended- New Videos Released-WBRZ

Posted on 3/30/18 at 8:18 pm to
Posted by Tino
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Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 3/30/18 at 8:18 pm to
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I wouldn't run up on him.

so what would you do?
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12785 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 8:18 pm to
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Just wanted to say it's cool seeing a lot of people in this thread be able to admit having a change of heart when presented new info. Too often these days people refuse to do that. Kudos to the OT


Agreed. Though probably also a reminder we don’t have to dig in super deep and demonize people with very little info
This post was edited on 3/30/18 at 8:22 pm
Posted by Scoop
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 3/30/18 at 8:19 pm to
Sterling was a POS.

No one is contesting that.

There was absolutely no reason for Salamoni to come in and turn that shite into a tire fire.

Sterling was a drugged up a-hole and cops should be able to handle a drugged up a-hole without killing them and causing all of the horseshite that comes with it.

As I have said on this thread 6 times, Sterling was at the point of being contained and his hands were visible when Salamoni went in for the tackle.



Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
6176 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 8:20 pm to
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Sterling was a POS.

No one is contesting that.

There was absolutely no reason for Salamoni to come in and turn that shite into a tire fire.

Sterling was a drugged up a-hole and cops should be able to handle a drugged up a-hole without killing them and causing all of the horse shite that comes with it.

As I have said on this thread 6 times, Sterling was at the point of being contained and his hands were visible when Salamoni went in for the tackle.


100% agree
Posted by Tino
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Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 3/30/18 at 8:20 pm to
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Name calling doesn't make you correct. Plenty of other posters have said the same, the cop's tactics helped lead to the end result. He appears to be justified in using lethal,force but we're not sure it had to come to that. I've stated my thoughts and don't care to repeat them- especially while our baseball team is playing so I'm out on this one.

you just made a assumption that he used racial terms when he clearly didnt. You also acted like you have been in the same situation as these officers but couldn't back up those claims
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
36093 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 8:21 pm to
How do you know they didn’t know?

If they had previous run ins with him they would obviously recognize him and know his lengthy criminal history.
This post was edited on 3/30/18 at 8:25 pm
Posted by Python
Member since May 2008
6680 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 8:22 pm to
Then why we're both officers not charged with anything in the multiple investigations by several agencies?
Posted by LaBR4
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
53937 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 8:22 pm to
on LivePD they roll up saying, hey Boss....
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
144566 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 8:22 pm to
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Walk me through the immediate threat




Did you miss the part where the officers were responding to a 911 call where a guy had a gun in his pocket and was pulling it on people?

A felon with a gun is always an immediate threat.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30763 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 8:23 pm to
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gotta love all these "experts" who are stating as fact that the cops knew they were responding to a call about a lifelong criminal with a gun


They knew there was a perp who brandished a gun and threatened the said person. You should stick to the Rant, it's more ur pace.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 8:24 pm to
I am one of them. My heart is just different tonight.

That said, gravy and co. Still are assholes. This doesn't change that at all.
Posted by Tino
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Member since Dec 2004
86225 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 8:24 pm to
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If I was a highly trained professional that deals with both real criminals, AND false reports regularly than yea— I’d be lower stress and working on deescalating the situation instead of getting the suspect as amped up as possible and then tackling him


its real easy to say that sitting in your house at night and not being on the corner in the ghetto in the middle of the night
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 8:24 pm to
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so what would you do?


Responding to a call about a man with a gun?

I get there, another officer is engaged, with no gun drawn?

The exact opposite of what Salamoni did.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
43339 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 8:24 pm to
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so what would you do?




I think many are forgetting that the officers didn't have the luxury of watching the video. I would expect them to come in hot on a 911 call.
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
6176 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 8:25 pm to
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Did you miss the part where the officers were responding to a 911 call where a guy had a gun in his pocket and was pulling it on people?

A felon with a gun is always an immediate


If you think rolling up and pulling a gun threatening to shoot the guy in the head is the correct response to that situation, I have no idea what to tell you.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Member since Oct 2009
14610 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 8:25 pm to
It looks bad. I think Sterling would probably still be alive if he was never tackled by Salamoni. And I don’t see why he needed to be tackled. They were in control of the situation.
Posted by Tino
:yawn:
Member since Dec 2004
86225 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 8:26 pm to
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The cops didn't know when responding if Sterling had a criminal record, was a deacon at the church, or was father of the yr.

how do you know this?
I hate to cite a tv show but on Live PD, those cops are often familiar with people they have encounters with
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 8:27 pm to
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Then why we're both officers not charged with anything in the multiple investigations by several agencies?


Gray area.

Salamoni’s shoot was justified once they were on the ground and wrestling but Salamoni never needed to be on the ground with Sterling.

He was on the ground with Sterling because he made a shitty decision and that’s why he was fired.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 8:27 pm to
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I think many are forgetting that the officers didn't have the luxury of watching the video. I would expect them to come in hot on a 911 call.


No. They had the luxury of hearing from a police dispatcher why they were responding to a call.

A gun being brandished.
Posted by tigers win2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
3926 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 8:28 pm to
Just in case this hasn’t made its way here.


quote:

STATEMENT BY THE MAYOR-PRESIDENT Today, Baton Rouge Police Chief Murphy Paul concluded his administrative investigation and has made a decision in the Alton Sterling case. I have placed my trust in Chief Paul and fully support his decision. I am grateful for his leadership and his swift, decisive, and fair action on this matter. Although the investigations into this case have concluded, the dialogue does not end today. I pledge to continue to lead and facilitate respectful conversations between the community and law enforcement in an effort to build trust and understanding on both sides.

The backdrop of this Holy Weekend serves as an opportunity for our community to move toward collective healing.

While support and prayers for the Sterling family are encouraged, we know that these alone will not heal their family or our community. It is vital that lessons are learned from this tragedy and that we apply our knowledge to prevent future incidents and implement policies that make this community safer and more unified.
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