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re: SAE at Oklahoma disbanded for racist video

Posted on 3/9/15 at 12:14 pm to
Posted by Tornado Alley
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 12:14 pm to
Ah, the Oxford Victory Lap

I want to say that Phi Psi, Phi Tau, and Beta have black members now, but I'm not 100% sure (since I haven't been in college in two years).
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 12:15 pm to
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Ah, the Oxford Victory Lap


Maybe the best decision I ever made

Had like 20 hours of electives and 100 level classes left for my 5th year. I lived on the square, had no Friday classes, and a joke of a curriculum (although still mandatory to graduate).

Best year ever. It was a constant party. I couldn't do it these days though. 6 nights a week we did something.

This post was edited on 3/9/15 at 12:17 pm
Posted by REG861
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 12:17 pm to
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Posted by MetArl15
A son of a wealthy black senator who is accomplished, has a high GPA, is active within the university and is generally a cool guy will still never receive a bid from certain fraternities at southern state schools. It's just a fact.


I knew in passing the first black guy to ever receive a bid from an old row house at ole miss. He was basically what you described. Nice conservative preppy black kid who was friends with a couple of the actives. Very well liked. They gave him a bid but a couple guys still tried to blackball him. Props to the majority of that chapter though.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 12:18 pm to
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I knew in passing the first black guy to ever receive a bid from an old row house at ole miss. He was basically what you described. Nice conservative preppy black kid who was friends with a couple of the actives. Very well liked. They gave him a bid but a couple guys still tried to blackball him. Props to the majority of that chapter though.



Bobby?

Wonderful guy. Has a future as a politician if he wants it.

Posted by LordoftheManor
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 12:18 pm to
Idiots that deserve whatever comes to them, but on a broader level this really does make you think twice about the consequences of what we say and do in the age of the internet. If the dumb stuff I've said in my life was put on video I don't think I'd like what I would see.
This post was edited on 3/9/15 at 12:20 pm
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 12:19 pm to
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but on a broader level this really does make you think twice about the consequences of what we say and do in the age of the internet.




While I would never do what these douchers did, I still do dumb shite on weekends that wouldn't look too good in a professional setting.

It's scary to think you're almost always being recorded/tracked in some way and that once its on the internet, it quite literally never comes off.

ETA

For example, out of my group of 20 or so friends in Nashville, at least one person is always instagramming, snapchatting, groupme'ing, etc. while we're out on the town.

If I was ever a famous person, every member of my entourage would have a no electronic policy.
This post was edited on 3/9/15 at 12:22 pm
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 12:22 pm to
[/quote]Posted by TheCaterpillar
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I knew in passing the first black guy to ever receive a bid from an old row house at ole miss. He was basically what you described. Nice conservative preppy black kid who was friends with a couple of the actives. Very well liked. They gave him a bid but a couple guys still tried to blackball him. Props to the majority of that chapter though.


Bobby?

Wonderful guy. Has a future as a politician if he wants it.

Yep. Beat me to the punch
This post was edited on 3/9/15 at 12:24 pm
Posted by Modern
Fiddy Men
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 12:22 pm to
I'm seeing pics on my Twitter feed of SAE members packing U hauls and moving out
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 12:23 pm to
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I'm seeing pics on my Twitter feed of SAE members packing U hauls and moving out



Well I'm sure they have to vacate the house.

I'm sure all the people shown on the video will leave school as well.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19405 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 12:29 pm to
Damn, do they really make them move out because of this? That sucks for all those who weren't involved. For those who were involved, frick em
Posted by redneck
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 12:35 pm to
Seems like OU is jumping the gun here by punishing everyone instead of just the ones involved and on camera
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 12:35 pm to
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EASILY would at Ole Miss. Which by all accounts, is as "Southern State University" as you can get.

There are examples of such happening.


ETA:

My year, Sigma Chi, which is a very selective and popular fraternity and very big in the South, had a black pledge who was extremely popular and went on to their leadership I believe.


I can say that my fraternity was filled with racist fricks with whom I no longer associate. It was fricking disgusting and disgraceful. Was a major reason I was not as active as I otherwise would have been.

There were several black guys who came through rush when I was there, one of which was an Air Force veteran, and they were all solid, stand up guys. I advocated hard for them before giving up and resigning to the fact that if we did bid them, they'd leave within a week of joining and file formal complaints against the chapter for the unbelievably racist clowns that populated my fraternity. It got to the point where the organization was de facto racist because 10 to 15 of its members threw around racial epithets with reckless abandon and the rest of the chapter didn't want to subject a black pledge to that sort of behavior. Simultaneously, no one wanted to kick these fricks out either.

It was abominable. I will look back at my time in that fraternity fondly, but that is because I have done all I could to blot out the shamefulness.


ETA: all this to say: no way does a black guy get a bid at most of the "major" fraternities at LSU with the rare, rare exception.
This post was edited on 3/9/15 at 12:36 pm
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 12:36 pm to
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Seems like OU is jumping the gun here by punishing everyone instead of just the ones involved and on camera




Lets be honest, they don't have a choice if they don't want to be completely destroyed by the media and black right's groups.

College kids will find places to live, they'll be fine. If this was 3 kids caught doing this it wouldn't happen, but this was a fraternity formal with an entire bus chanting this. They really had to do this.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 12:37 pm to
Mine wasn't that bad, but we had a few dimbasses.

Interesting thing was I never felt like they genuinely believed it. It was more like they felt the need to live up to this Southern frat boy stereotype.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 12:41 pm to
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Interesting thing was I never felt like they genuinely believed it. It was more like they felt the need to live up to this Southern frat boy stereotype.


Most of them were probably similar, but a good chunk of them were legitimately racist. One of them, while intoxicated, told an LSU football player at a bar, "Take this shot, n*****!"

The player looked at him, took the shot, and walked away. How that player restrained himself from pummeling my fraternity acquaintance into oblivion is beyond me. Had I been there, I would have done it myself.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 12:43 pm to
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Most of them were probably similar, but a good chunk of them were legitimately racist. One of them, while intoxicated, told an LSU football player at a bar, "Take this shot, n*****!"

The player looked at him, took the shot, and walked away. How that player restrained himself from pummeling my fraternity acquaintance into oblivion is beyond me. Had I been there, I would have done it myself.




What years were you at LSU? Behavior like this would not be accepted among any fraternity I have hung out with at LSU or Ole Miss. The opposite is true, it would be blasted.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 12:46 pm to
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What years were you at LSU? Behavior like this would not be accepted among any fraternity I have hung out with at LSU or Ole Miss. The opposite is true, it would be blasted.


Less than 10 years ago. It would be blasted now by the same fraternity. It was a group of just absolute idiots who came in together and fed off each other. I don't think it would fly in most places anymore, but I also don't think a black guy would be very welcome in many or most LSU fraternities, again with the rare exception.
Posted by 12Pence
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 12:49 pm to
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For example, out of my group of 20 or so friends in Nashville, at least one person is always instagramming, snapchatting, groupme'ing, etc. while we're out on the town.

If I was ever a famous person, every member of my entourage would have a no electronic policy.


That's such a pet peeve of mine. As you said, nothing dare approaches that level, but it doesn't look good in another setting.

The people typically glued to their social media and phones are typically devoid of any interesting or worthwhile conversation as well.
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 12:49 pm to
Fun day on the OU campus today...
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38154 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 12:50 pm to
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Interesting thing was I never felt like they genuinely believed it. It was more like they felt the need to live up to this Southern frat boy stereotype.


Agreed. It's always the clowns that try too hard
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