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re: Russia test a Hypersonic missle
Posted on 6/5/19 at 3:54 am to HempHead
Posted on 6/5/19 at 3:54 am to HempHead
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100%
Telephone pole sized tungsten rods? And multiple rods? That's a space shuttle type lift is it not? I'm a sceptic because that's a heavy piece of space junk. But it's fun to think about.
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 5:47 am to aTmTexas Dillo
How long before all this technology is used on the citizens?
Posted on 6/5/19 at 6:00 am to bencoleman
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They're beyond operational. America h
as already moved past them technologically. They're up there and can be used at anytime.
I call bullshite. Show me one military analysis group that says it is operational.
Unless they had some way to do orbital assembly (they don't) you would have to have some sort of SHLLV to get it into orbit and the only one near ready would be the Falcon Heavy which is unproven as a super heavy lift vehicle. So unless it was orbited prior to the space shuttle being retired (probably not enough payload anyway0 or the Saturn V being retired how the hell did they get it up there. It isn't like space launches are watched closely by multiple nations.
Keep in mind every projectile is estimated to weigh ~24K pounds so just 6 projectiles alone would be right at Falcon Heavy's designed lift potential and that doesn't include the satellite. This isn't to mention the cost of getting each rod into orbit would cost over $200 million.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 6:08 am to Obtuse1
We snuck them on the Russian rockets we have been using to get to space for the past decade? 
Posted on 6/5/19 at 6:17 am to Northwestern tiger
I kept waiting for Dan Akroyd and Chevy Chase to show up and hack the launch code on that carrier truck while watching this!
This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 6:20 am
Posted on 6/5/19 at 6:23 am to Northwestern tiger
USA don't need a hypersonic missile. We have laser beams, man.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 7:19 am to Northwestern tiger
You have to be incredibly dumb to believe any of that was legit.
Take some time to research ICBMs, payload mass and hypersonic speeds.
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Take some time to research ICBMs, payload mass and hypersonic speeds.
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 7:42 am to bencoleman
Rods from God are cool as hell but wouldn't they be really impractical because you would have to wait for the satellite(s)to be over a target? Then how do you aim to ensure precision?
Posted on 6/5/19 at 7:52 am to PhilemonThomas
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Then how do you aim to ensure precision?
Ever play with lawn darts as a kid?
Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:00 am to doliss
Yeah, hitting the neighbors cat from 10 yards is a lot different than dropping a tungsten rod on a bunker from something moving several thousand miles per hour and is at the very minimum 100 miles above it.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:06 am to PhilemonThomas
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Rods from God are cool as hell but wouldn't they be really impractical because you would have to wait for the satellite(s)to be over a target?
First, ROG would likely only be deployed at strategic targets and not tactical ones so time wouldn't be as big of a concern. You would have two options if you put the in LEO they would be constantly on the move and you could use them to attack multiple continents or you could move them up to GTO where they would essentially hover over an area of interest.
Just another of set facts to help dispell the silliness that we are actually operational currently. We do have classified launches on a regular basis by NRO however as soon as those satellites are placed in orbit amateur astronomers around the world focus in on them and identify them. Something as out of the ordinary as a ROG satellite would hit the internet almost immediately. Coms, optical, ELINT, SIGINT, radar and optical imaging satellites are all identified fairly quickly.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:14 am to doliss
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Ever play with lawn darts as a kid?
Not a good analogy since throwing lawn darts involves adding significant energy to the projectile.
It is more analogous to dropping lawn darts out of a helicopter and hitting a pin head on the ground. It can be done though, just not easy. The fortunate thing is by the time they are low enough that atmospheric conditions could have a significant effect on their trajectory their inertia would be high enough that it would likely be negligible at least the conditions we could not account for. If the satellites are in GTO it would be much easier to deal with than in LEO where they would be moving at high speed relative to the target.
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