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re: Rush Limbaugh thinks evolution is a hoax because gorilla never became human

Posted on 6/2/16 at 11:59 am to
Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 11:59 am to
Your post highlights the misunderstandings of Christianity. People be like, I pray to God for the winning lottery ticket and he didn't give it to me so hah! Got ya!

That's not a gotcha
Posted by Enadious
formerly B5Lurker City of Central
Member since Aug 2004
18632 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:00 pm to
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If he could do that with Noah, imagine what could be accomplished through yourself!


If you do just a little reading, comparing animals in Australia to the rest of the world, it becomes obvious that the story of Noah is not 100% literal. Evolution is quite evident if you examine geography and animal life.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:01 pm to
No, my gotcha is that is just as ridiculous as a Stone Age man loading millions of species onto a boat and that there's literally no evidence for this.
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:01 pm to
If scientists could spark life they would have done it. They can't.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18912 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:02 pm to
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You are correct BigEd, like I mentioned, the magic slime had to come from somewhere, and that stuff had to come from somewhere, and that stuff had to come from somewhere. If you keep going back, what you eventually will get back to is God. God is spiritual, not material.


Why are you still trying to argue that the Scientific Method and God are mutually exclusive? True, there are scientists that are atheists. However, there are many that are not.

Do you think Mendelian Genetics or the Big Bang were created by atheists?

Gregor Mendel

Georges Lemaitre

Vatican Observatory Foundation
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:03 pm to
I'm a creationist who believes evolution is a part of creation. If scientists would stop being close minded and actually consider this, they would see the truth in it.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:04 pm to
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f scientists could spark life they would have done it. They can't.


"If scientists could make us fly, they would have done it. They can't."

-Idiot from 1785
This post was edited on 6/2/16 at 12:06 pm
Posted by PerCuriam
backrooms, alleys and trusty woods
Member since Apr 2016
1577 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:06 pm to
denisovans and bonobos? how splain dat?
Posted by Enadious
formerly B5Lurker City of Central
Member since Aug 2004
18632 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:06 pm to
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Everyone spewing that evolution occurred from a single molecule as fact is just as accepting to blind faith as someone with religious beliefs as in that it cannot be proven


No one ever said evolution occurred from a single molecule.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:07 pm to
If people want to believe that there is a metaphysical being who plays some invisible role in the universe then that is fine. However to deny the overwhelming evidence that evolution (including what people term macro-evolution) lead to the variety of life on earth takes a level of denial of reality that is staggering.

I don't accept the modern evangelical take on God but often struggle with whether there is a great power out there. Whatever side of that debate I come down on does not change the origins of life.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18912 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:08 pm to
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If scientists could spark life they would have done it. They can't.


So just because they haven't done it yet means that it can't be done? That is flat earth level reasoning.

There have already been experiments that have taken raw materials and an energy source to create the building blocks of life in a flask. We can now synthetically create a genome and insert it into a host cell.

Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:08 pm to
What truth in it? There is no shred of physical evidence of a creator.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:10 pm to
If scientists could get us to outer space, they would have done it already.

If scientists can prove the earth orbits the sun they would have done it already.
Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
Member since Sep 2010
20396 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:11 pm to
agree to disagree. I won't win anyone to my cause by force.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:13 pm to
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What will humans evolve to if the ever growing trend of homosexuality continues?


Trend? How long do you think homosexuality has existed?
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38296 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:13 pm to
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If scientists would stop being close minded and actually consider this, they would see the truth in it.

Following the evidence is close minded? As soon as God manifests Himself physically He will enter the realm of science. This isn't the Monty Python's Holy Grail and scientific theory isn't based on an ancient book.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:13 pm to
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If scientists would stop being close minded

How are they close minded? Creationism is not a valid theory because it cannot be falsified.

A theory that cannot be falsified is not a scientific theory but a conspiracy theory.

As for intelligent design, it is subjective by nature. There are lots of examples of what some deem unintelligent design. Which leads us back to saying "God intentionally made creatures that way" which cannot be proven false (and therefore a conspiracy theory).

If we allowed conspiracy theories to be taken as seriously as scientific theories then we'd open the door to all sorts of nonsense like the invisible pink unicorn, the flying spaghetti monster, etc.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:14 pm to
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However to deny the overwhelming evidence that evolution (including what people term macro-evolution) lead to the variety of life on earth takes a level of denial of reality that is staggering.


Denial of reality? A denial of reality is denying what 99.9% of scientists tell you is a scientific fact. Think of the numbers: 999 out of a 1000 think evolution is real. If you're in a room of 999 other people and you're the only one who disagrees with them, then you are clearly the dunce in the room.
Posted by Langland
Trumplandia
Member since Apr 2014
15382 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:14 pm to
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Why are you still trying to argue that the Scientific Method and God are mutually exclusive?

I believe science is cool. I also believe that man is fallible.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18912 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:14 pm to
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If scientists would stop being close minded and actually consider this, they would see the truth in it.


There are plenty of religious scientists, as proven by my post above.

The problem is, you can't just make vague claims about "the hand of god" in scientific literature. When you try to, it ends very badly: Paper that says human hand was 'designed by Creator' sparks concern

Scientists have to validate their hypothesis through empirical evidence. You must be able to replicate your results, and show how your experimental design is falsifiable. Current scientific methodology does not allow you to accept that simply not knowing something is left up to god. That simply identifies a gap in knowledge and guides future research.
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