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Posted on 4/23/16 at 7:41 am
Posted by ItFliesItDies
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Posted on 4/23/16 at 7:41 am
I'm by far no electrician. I need to run wire 120ft, 50 amp, 110v. What size wire to do I need to use? Thanks for help
Posted by McCringleberryy
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Posted on 4/23/16 at 7:46 am to
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Posted by djangochained
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Posted on 4/23/16 at 7:49 am to
16 gauged
Posted by BeerMoney
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Posted on 4/23/16 at 7:50 am to
indoor/outdoor? In the attic?
Posted by Kajungee
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Posted on 4/23/16 at 7:52 am to
Based on your question, not knowing the ratings of your terminations # 6 awg THHN copper. If the terminations are rated 75C or higher #8 awg cu should be sufficient.

However I am more curious what you need a 50 amp, 120 volt circuit for ? Something does not sound right. And good luck finding a 50 amp, 1 pole breaker.
Posted by Tino
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Posted on 4/23/16 at 7:55 am to
That's the question I wanted to ask as well
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 4/23/16 at 7:56 am to
quote:

However I am more curious what you need a 50 amp, 120 volt circuit for ? Something does not sound right. And good luck finding a 50 amp, 1 pole breaker.


My first thought as well. KGee, I am sure you know the tech. side of things more completely than I do but I thought that to be a LOT of amps for 120v.
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
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Posted on 4/23/16 at 8:07 am to
I've been an electrician for 20 years and have never run a 110v 50 amp circuit.
Posted by DeoreDX
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/23/16 at 8:10 am to
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However I am more curious what you need a 50 amp, 120 volt circuit for ? Something does not sound right. And good luck finding a 50 amp, 1 pole breaker.


I've seen someone redneck up a 120v only sub panel with xx/2 instead of xx/3. Black to one leg, white to neutral, bare to ground, and a pig tail from one leg of the sub to the other leg. Used only single pole breakers.

I saw a lot of interesting rednecked up shite working summers with my dad as an electrician.
This post was edited on 4/23/16 at 8:11 am
Posted by ItFliesItDies
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Posted on 4/23/16 at 8:26 am to
Then I'm assuming wrong, must be double breaker and 220v
Posted by muttenstein
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Posted on 4/23/16 at 8:28 am to
220, 221, whatever it takes.
Posted by DrSteveBrule
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Posted on 4/23/16 at 8:30 am to
quote:

Based on your question, not knowing the ratings of your terminations # 6 awg THHN copper. If the terminations are rated 75C or higher #8 awg cu should be sufficient.


#8 would be fine in that instance per NEC, but it depends on the length of the run. If voltage drop is an issue then #6 is needed

quote:

Then I'm assuming wrong, must be double breaker and 220v


50/2 breaker and sizing as mentioned by others for conductor, either a 3/4" conduit or 1", I forget what the NEC says. Probably need a #10 ground wire as well.
This post was edited on 4/23/16 at 8:33 am
Posted by mdomingue
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/23/16 at 8:32 am to
quote:

16 gauged


I worked in a DIY type store (Handy City/Handy Dan if anybody recalls that store) back in my college days. Had a couple of guys come in wanting to by 18 gauge lamp cord for an 4500 watt industrial heater. I wouldn't sell it to them, but they lingered around and cut it themselves when I was with another customer. Not sure if they burned their shop down or not. I kinda knew the guys, they had worked for my stepdad when he had a small hot shot business.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48595 posts
Posted on 4/23/16 at 8:52 am to
quote:

If voltage drop is an issue then #6 is needed


At 120 ft full load .8 PF you're looking at 8 V vs 5 V drop fro 8 to 6. 8 is probably sufficient. If the price difference is small enough, go with 6.

quote:

Probably need a #10 ground wire as well


Probably right, typically one size smaller but no need to worry about that if he goes with one of these:

8/3 NM-B W/G

6/3 NM-B W/G


Posted by 1mic
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Posted on 4/23/16 at 8:53 am to
RVs use 120v 50amp service
Posted by retired trucker
midwest
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Posted on 4/23/16 at 8:56 am to
if he wants a fire...
Posted by Milk
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Posted on 4/23/16 at 9:05 am to
You would probably get better advice if you told everyone what you are wiring. The fact that you are not sure if its a single or double pole breaker you need means your in over your head.
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