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Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:58 am
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27669 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:58 am
Live in TX and had a hail storm back in early May, and it looks like almost every home on my block has or is getting their roof replaced. im starting to look like the lone holdout.

I get 2-3 Door to door guys knock on my door every day and i haven't answered one.

The hail storm wasn't anything crazy, and i haven't noticed a leak or anything, but how is every single house affording a 1% deductible? im fine with a new roof, but dont want to pay that much out of pocket.

What am i missing?
Posted by golfntiger32
Ohio
Member since Oct 2013
12486 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:00 am to
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What am i missing?


Posted by Vood
Enjoying a Forty with Lando
Member since Dec 2007
8332 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:01 am to
Honestly if your roof is 12 years old or older, you should get yours done as well. Everyone else in your neighborhood is getting a new roof so your rates will go up if you do it or not.

As for the deductible, everyones insurance is different. Don't assume everyone has a 1% deductible like you.


This post was edited on 6/5/18 at 11:04 am
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21420 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:03 am to
How old is your roof? Your "co-pay" will be a lot less now that it will be if a named storm causes damage to an old less wind resistant roof.
Posted by iluvredboxx
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2012
899 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:04 am to
Same thing happened in my neighborhood, and I felt the same as you. I ending up caving and had it done. Cost me 6k in deductibles, but no regrets as my roof was almost 20 yrs old
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6172 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:04 am to
The damage from a hail storm doesn't come from rain pouring directly into your house. It has to do with damaging the shingle, knocking off the granules, and allowing the sun to slowly damage the paper.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:06 am to
Whether you decide to do it or not, I'd wait until later when the roofers don't have as much business already.
Posted by anewguy
BR
Member since Mar 2017
1239 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:07 am to
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1% deductible?


A lot of times if the roofer is still making money they will not collect the deductible from the homeowner.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166136 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:08 am to
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I'd wait until later when the roofers don't have as much business already.


what's that got to do with anything?
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27669 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:09 am to
Every home in neighborhood is under 5 years old. mine is 4


i know there is a lot of fraud in that business. most of the business cards say they can do it for nothing out of pocket. my guess is they make up something else is wrong and bill them for that?
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
57002 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:09 am to
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but how is every single house affording a 1% deductible?


Because after storms insurance companies pay $300+ a square sometimes, when it can be had for half, with cost to roofer half of that.
They will also try to argue with adjuster that the size is larger than actual as well as needing a higher a percentage of overage on the job.

In other words the roofers overbill and give you kick backs like deductibles and upgrades
This post was edited on 6/5/18 at 11:12 am
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21856 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:10 am to
Find a reputable local roofer, not one of those door to door storm chasers. Ask them to take a look at your roof for possible hail damage and its not easily noticeable if you don't know what to look for. Your roof isn't going to suddenly start leaking due to hail damage, but it'll lead to problems down the road.

Best to get it checked out now to find out if you have damage or not and claim on insurance to get a new roof if you really have damage. If you wait too long, then find out later that you had hail damage it may be too late to file a claim. Not sure about TX, but in LA you have a year from the date of loss to file a property damage claim.
This post was edited on 6/5/18 at 11:10 am
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19813 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:10 am to
If it’s over 15 years old. Get the new roof
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21856 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:11 am to
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Because after storms insurance companies pay $300+ a square sometimes, when it can be had for half, with cost to roofer half of that.

In other words the roofers overbill and give you kick backs like deductibles and upgrades


In other words, felony insurance fraud.
Posted by NYCAuburn
TD Platinum Membership/SECr Sheriff
Member since Feb 2011
57002 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:13 am to
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n other words, felony insurance fraud.



Is it? The insurance companies are willing to pay a certain price per square. The roofers could charge that and collect deductibles and make a shite ton more money, but they wont get as many sales. Its basically an instant rebate


ETA, the real frauds in homeowners insurance are the contents restoration companies. FTR I am not a roofer
This post was edited on 6/5/18 at 11:15 am
Posted by GoIrish02
Member since Mar 2012
1390 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:22 am to
You don't understand how insurance and deductibles work, do you?

A deductible is never collected, it is deducted from the reimbursement payment from the adjuster to the homeowner/contractor.

Also, if a homeowner cannot handle a 1% deductible, they're pretty terrible at managing their finances. Deductibles should be as high as you can afford to minimize the total cost of risk. For most, I would start at ~$5,000 all perils, because you only file a claim once in 10+ years. Total cost of risk will be much lower as a homeowner.
This post was edited on 6/5/18 at 11:24 am
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21856 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:28 am to
Yeah. A roofer purposely over-billing an insurance company in order to give the homeowner a kickback is fraud.

quote:

Its basically an instant rebate



Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24626 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:30 am to
quote:

You don't understand how insurance and deductibles work, do you?



Also, in most states, it's illegal to not pay your deductible
Posted by anewguy
BR
Member since Mar 2017
1239 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:34 am to
Slow your roll.

I fully understand how deductibles and insurance work, dickhead.

Were going to assume no depreciation hold backs.

If insurance says the roof will cost 10,000 to replace and the insured has a 1,000 deductible, insurance will cut a check for 9,000.

The insured is supposed to pay the roofer the insurance companies 9,000 plus their deductible of 1,000 which totals our original 10,000 estimate.

BUT AS I STATED- some roofers will not collect the 1,000 from the insured. They will take the 9,000 insurance check and run.

Is it legal? No. Does it happen? All the time.
This post was edited on 6/5/18 at 11:35 am
Posted by Scrote
Member since Mar 2015
58 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:37 am to
Yes it is. But it’s no different than you paying out of pocket for a Dr and after a few visits decide to allow them to file it towards your deductible. Next thing you know you ll receive statements from the insurance company showing ( you know what the first two visits cost actually because you paid out of pocket and settled with the Dr ) it costs 450.00 but being you have is representing you ,,,, your part to pay in $150.00. Which of course you already paid and account was settled. Insurance as a whole is fraud. They are the best at it.
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