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re: Roe v Wade officially overturned
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:12 pm to SoonerK
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:12 pm to SoonerK
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That is why I said Thomas would rule it constitutional for a state to ban sex outside of marriage.
but you forget that there are other justices. some that might not think as reasonable as him
also if the Fedgov doesnt have the authority. then it goes to the states. dont rely on the judicial systems to interpret your rights. get the legislature to right unambiguous laws that help define them.
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 10:14 pm
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Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:16 pm to gaetti15
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but you forget that there are other justices. some that might not think as reasonable as him
I wonder if Loving got challenged if he would vote to nix his own inter-racial marriage.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:18 pm to Korkstand
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There are likely many avenues.
List them.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:19 pm to Korkstand
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Is this one of the possible avenues of enforcement across state lines? How does this work for tax purposes and state benefit programs?
How do nonprofits work? How do corporations pay for travel expenses?
Are…. Are you serious?
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What kind of mess will health insurance be?
Good thing there is a thing called cash
You are obviously not a problem solver or someone with the ability to think critically to get things done
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:19 pm to SoonerK
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wonder if Loving got challenged if he would vote to nix his own inter-racial marriage.
loving was based on equality clause so not likely!
"The Court found that the law nonetheless violated the Equal Protection Clause because it was based solely on "distinctions drawn according to race" and outlawed conduct—namely, getting married—that was otherwise generally accepted and which citizens were free to do"
completely different justification than the other decisions he listed
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:22 pm to Cosmo
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Get back to me when Alabama makes contraception illega
If life begins at conception, and birth control makes a woman shed her uterine lining/embryo at menstruation- how is that not an abortion?
I don't see how birth control can be considered legal in a number of states at this point.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:24 pm to gaetti15
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wonder if Loving got challenged if he would vote to nix his own inter-racial marriage.
loving was based on equality clause so not likely!
The Obergefell ruling was also partly based on the Equal Protection Clause, but he still dissented in full.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:25 pm to NYNolaguy1
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life begins at conception, and birth control makes a woman shed her uterine lining/embryo at menstruation- how is that not an abortion?
have sperm and egg met and implanted in the uterine wall? jesus man
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:27 pm to SoonerK
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The Obergefell ruling was also partly based on the Equal Protection Clause, but he still dissented in full.
partly
and that's fine. he can do that. but so what.
hes gone the opposite of a couple of other decisions to. hes a justice, hes entitle to his opinions.
deal with it.
you are trying to get me with some gotcha, but your also trying to tell me Thomas is the sole reason that these cases would get overturned. that's not how the court works. he needs support.
ETA: I thought diversity of thought was a good thing?
AND almost his entire dissent was about the "substantive due process"
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:30 pm to gaetti15
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ETA: I thought diversity of thought was a good thing?
Not when it comes from a House n****r like Thomas.
-Progressives, 2022.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:39 pm to gaetti15
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partly
and that's fine. he can do that. but so what.
hes gone the opposite of a couple of other decisions to. hes a justice, hes entitle to his opinions.
deal with it.
you are trying to get me with some gotcha, but your also trying to tell me Thomas is the sole reason that these cases would get overturned. that's not how the court works. he needs support.
ETA: I thought diversity of thought was a good thing?
AND almost his entire dissent was about the "substantive due process"
It should concern you when a SC judge invites states to try to start taking rights away from individuals. You think he just randomly threw that out there on a whim?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:39 pm to Centinel
quote:You know damn well that hundreds of lawmakers are going to devote the rest of their lives to throwing shite at that wall to see what sticks. There are quite literally thousands of ways to if not outright enforce their laws then punish those who break them outside their borders.
List them.
I think you don't appreciate how strong the desire is with some folks to control and punish others.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:40 pm to SoonerK
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should concern you when a SC judge invites states to try to start taking rights away from individuals. You think he just randomly threw that out there on a whim?
should it concern me that he is pointing out other cases that use the same flawed logic used in the cases that were just overruled?
I dont think so.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:41 pm to beerJeep
quote:I'm asking what are the tax and benefit implications for the individual who received funding and created a paper trail of committing "murder".
How do nonprofits work? How do corporations pay for travel expenses?
Are…. Are you serious?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:42 pm to Korkstand
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You know damn well that hundreds of lawmakers are going to devote the rest of their lives to throwing shite at that wall to see what sticks.
that's how the system works though. legislative branch makes laws, judicial branch reviews them.
it's a never ending cycle
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:46 pm to Korkstand
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think you don't appreciate how strong the desire is with some folks to control and punish others.
One of these days I expect the California state police to knock on my door and arrest me for my multiple firearm violations
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:46 pm to gaetti15
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should it concern me that he is pointing out other cases that use the same flawed logic used in the cases that were just overruled?
I dont think so.
So you think Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell should be overturned?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:48 pm to SoonerK
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So you think Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell should be overturned?
no but you better hope that the current justices can figure out a more logical way to connect them to rights enumerated to the Federal government than did the other courts that ruled in those decisions. If not, then it falls to the States.
that's how our government works.
ETA: it boils down to whether right of privacy exists in the Constitution and if "substantive" due process exists. ill leave it to people much smarter than me in conlaw to figure that put
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 10:52 pm
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:49 pm to Korkstand
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You know damn well that hundreds of lawmakers are going to devote the rest of their lives to throwing shite at that wall to see what sticks. There are quite literally thousands of ways to if not outright enforce their laws then punish those who break them outside their borders.
I think you don't appreciate how strong the desire is with some folks to control and punish others.
List them.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:58 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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I have a 16yo daughter, you fricktard. If something were to happen that threatens her future because some dumb fricking kid wants to "cream pie" like he saw on some porno, I want to be able to rectify it.
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