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Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:19 pm to rocket31
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Restaurants are dying across the country. Very slim profit margins
Please stop posting this.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:21 pm to beerJeep
quote:Fist of all no one approach is the answer to a perfect society. You pretty much have to take the best parts and blend them. Secondly it is always good to understand the goals and principals behind any approach to fully understand what they are trying to accomplish and why it hasn't work and how it can work.
Your post history says otherwise.
Tell me more how a socialist and communist approach would be good for the average man. You have piqued my interest. I'd love to hear your reasonings on how such an approach, which has failed time and time again, would work. This time.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:22 pm to Chucktown_Badger
Is the $15 n hour for all businesses, and is it for full time employees, or everyone?
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:22 pm to Chucktown_Badger
quote:Well I passed the first test pretty easily, so..........
I could take a board exam for cardiology. But taking the test doesn't mean I know a thing about it.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:24 pm to MontyFranklyn
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Fist of all no one approach is the answer to a perfect society. You pretty much have to take the best parts and blend them. Secondly it is always good to understand the goals and principals behind any approach to fully understand what they are trying to accomplish and why it hasn't work and how it can work.
One hell of a word salad for you to type. Could have just said "I have no idea"
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:28 pm to beerJeep
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Could have just said "I have no idea"
The US is by no means perfect. We're overworked, and some values are misplaced, but his position/belief about how it would work is illogical and uninformed.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:30 pm to beerJeep
quote:Seriously, dude. If you can't understand that I'm sorry. There is no pure right or wrong in a set economy. There can be good and bad in all approaches. Do you think that capitalism is perfect and doesn't have flaws? Anything that is good can be better
One hell of a word salad for you to type. Could have just said "I have no idea"
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:34 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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The US is by no means perfect. We're overworked,
I actually see our work week decreasing to about 25-30 hours in the next decade or two. Automation and technology will reach a point it's simply not needed to work 40+ a week. (Most jobs at least)
We're already seeing this today, more people work from home rather than in the office. You get done in a few hours what would have taken all day a decade ago. That trend will only continue.
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position/belief about how it would work is illogical and uninformed.
Absolutely. Anyone with a functioning brain who has spent any amount of time on the subject knows how socialist and communist practices limit upward mobility. Stifle innovation. And decreases the quality of life for the vast majority of its population.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:39 pm to MontyFranklyn
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Seriously, dude. If you can't understand that I'm sorry. There is no pure right or wrong in a set economy. There can be good and bad in all approaches. Do you think that capitalism is perfect and doesn't have flaws? Anything that is good can be better
Of course capitalism isn't perfect. But it's light years ahead of socialism and communism.
So, since you couldn't articulate how socialism and communism are good things for the average man, how can you justify your earlier statements on wages in this thread?
I'd like to know how and why you think that if minimum wage gets a bump, the people above them don't deserve a bump. Or the ones above them. Or above them.
Minimum wage is a joke and does far more harm than good. There shouldn't be a minimum wage.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:39 pm to beerJeep
quote:That can also be attributed to companies wanting to save money on commercial real estate. Technology does allow that to happen, but companies wanting to save money on office space is a bigger factor imo.
We're already seeing this today, more people work from home rather than in the office.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:39 pm to beerJeep
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Anyone with a functioning brain who has spent any amount of time on the subject knows how socialist and communist practices limit upward mobility. Stifle innovation. And decreases the quality of life for the vast majority of its population
Unless you're one of the folks pulling the strings.
I'll admit though, that some of the Scandinavian countries are largely socialist, and have very high standards of living, with good quality of life. Of course that all comes at a price, and comparing those countries with one like the US is hardly an apples to apples comparison.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:42 pm to MontyFranklyn
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That can also be attributed to companies wanting to save money on commercial real estate. Technology does allow that to happen, but companies wanting to save money on office space is a bigger factor imo.
Technology is what gave the companies the chance to save money via having people work from home.
Guess what stifles technological innovation?
Socialistic and communist ideals.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:50 pm to beerJeep
quote:Well our capitalistic society has a strong dependency on socialism as it is. It honestly helps keep it healthy in alot of cases.
So, since you couldn't articulate how socialism and communism are good things for the average man, how can you justify your earlier statements on wages in this thread?
quote:You can actually calculate a livable wage for the bottom of the barrel laborers that meets basic economic needs such as food, housing, utilities and disposable income.
I'd like to know how and why you think that if minimum wage gets a bump, the people above them don't deserve a bump. Or the ones above them. Or above them
quote:Then who would work? If there was no guarantee of a wage do you think you'd have more people entering the job market or more people leaving the job market? You have to remember that the wage can go down as low as pennies
Minimum wage is a joke and does far more harm than good. There shouldn't be a minimum wage.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:52 pm to beerJeep
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Guess what stifles technological innovation?
Socialistic and communist ideals.
capitalism strictly monetizes ideas that are profitable.
an idea or innovation that may be practical or even a life saver will not gain traction in a capitalist market unless the result would be private profit
cellular phones, tvs, gaming consoles, etc make minimal tech improvements each year to maximize profit - it is the epitome of stifling technological innovation
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 4:54 pm
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:53 pm to Jason in BR LA
I dont mind having kiosks everywhere, its a game changer. Im always mind fricked when i see people order pizza over the phone
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:54 pm to beerJeep
quote:Communism, kind of. Socialism, not so much.
Technology is what gave the companies the chance to save money via having people work from home.
Guess what stifles technological innovation?
Socialistic and communist ideals.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:56 pm to MontyFranklyn
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Well our capitalistic society has a strong dependency on socialism as it is. It honestly helps keep it healthy in alot of cases.
Not what I asked. I asked how is a socialist or communist society is better for the average man than a capitalist society.
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You can actually calculate a livable wage for the bottom of the barrel laborers that meets basic economic needs such as food, housing, utilities and disposable income.
A living wage is a misnomer. Minimum wage is not meant to be a "living wage". It's meant for high school kids and people just starting out. If you're on min wage longer than 6 months, you're a failure.
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Then who would work? If there was no guarantee of a wage do you think you'd have more people entering the job market or more people leaving the job market? You have to remember that the wage can go down as low as pennies
The same people who work now. If I can find someone to wash dishes at $5 an hour, than I pay him $5 an hour. The free market will determine pay rates.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:56 pm to rocket31
quote:It definitely won't if it threatens current profit models. That is why we have lobbyist, to protect the interests of those profiting in a certain industry.
an idea or innovation that may be practical or even a life saver will not gain traction in a capitalist market unless the result would be private profit
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:57 pm to rocket31
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cellular phones, tvs, gaming consoles, etc make minimal tech improvements each year to maximize profit - it is the epitome of stifling technological innovation
Ahhh...so are you one of those people that thinks that all the pharmaceutical companies have the cure for cancer already and are just making things incrementally better over time so that they can maximize profits?
You said it yourself.
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capitalism strictly monetizes ideas that are profitable.
Basically, if something is created that has value and people want it, it will generate income....as it should.
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 5:01 pm
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