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re: Restaurant die-off is first course of California’s $15 minimum wage

Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:31 pm to
Posted by Jason in BR LA
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:31 pm to
LA
Posted by LSUTigerFan247
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:31 pm to
Posted by The Mick
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:37 pm to
Well said...
Posted by ellishughtiger
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:49 pm to
Waitr is pretty awful if you ask me. You are designated to work scheduled times and as the customer you pay a delivery fee and also asked to add an additional tip. When all said in done you pretty much pay what you would going to a restaurant. Ubereats on the other hand has a flat fee, which is like $4-6 pending on time of day.

Postmates just came to NOLA so probably about to start using that.
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:50 pm to
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Well said...

cut and paste from macro 2000 textbook
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:50 pm to
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You're missing the point. It's not about egos, or job titles, or anything else. It's some really effing simple economics.
I know. I'm just trying to show you that it can be done.
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Let me take another shot at breaking it down for you. How would you feel if you suddenly made less money relative to everyone working below you
Again, if someone "below" me is making a decent livable wage, why is it my concern?
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and that same amount of money now bought you less than it used to?
Again, if the wages were raised at the bottom across the board and no other wages moved, it would only put more money into the economy. That would increase demand and thus supply. The increase to supply would make prices decrease if it exceeds demand in some cases. (see current oil markets)
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Someone needs to handle the more skilled aspects of running those places, and they're not going to take unskilled ($15/hr) money to do it.
There is no real skill in working in a basic restaurant. Unless we are talking 4-5 star places here, what skill is needed? Those places need culinary trained chefs, O'Charley's doesn't.
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He says, hey, I want you to work more hours, and be responsible for the schedules, dealing with customers, and managing some of the books. More work, more responsibility, and I'm going to still pay you $15.

Are you starting to understand the point?
Like I said, cross train all none management employees to do multiple jobs. That way they would be worth more. Plus, this done all the time now. How many people get promoted to manager a flat salary? They are robbed of their overtime and have to take on more responsibilities and more work.

My point is that we aren't talking about anything technical or that requires a great deal of skill, we are talking about manual labor and we are talking about just one industry. Mixing shitty drinks takes no more skill or education than seating a table or taking an order.


Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:52 pm to


Dying off and not even a recession to blame.
Posted by ellishughtiger
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:53 pm to
Dominos is about to have a truck that drives to your house and makes the pizza for you in your driveway.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:54 pm to
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Again, if someone "below" me is making a decent livable wage, why is it my concern?


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Again, if the wages were raised at the bottom across the board and no other wages moved, it would only put more money into the economy. That would increase demand and thus supply.


The fact that you keep coming back with these responses tells me that you don't have a basic understanding of economics, and therefore there is no sense in me continuing to respond. I've you're not getting it after what I've explained thus far, it isn't happening.
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 3:55 pm
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:54 pm to
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Dominos is about to have a truck that drives to your house and makes the pizza for you in your driveway.


WTF? That seems wasteful as frick
Posted by Vegas Eddie
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:55 pm to
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Restaurants are dying across the country. Very slim profit margins




You're dumb
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:55 pm to
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The fact that you keep coming back with these responses tells me that you don't have a basic understanding of economics, and therefore there is no sense in me continuing to respond. I've you're not getting it after what I've explained thus far, it isn't happening.
I have a minor in econ
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:56 pm to
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I have a minor in econ

Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:56 pm to
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I have a minor in econ


Holy shite
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:57 pm to
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Holy shite



no wonder he's fighting for that wage hike!
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:58 pm to
Holy shite. Have you ever in your life taken an economics class?
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:00 pm to
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Holy shite
If you could read between the lines you could see that I was making my arguments using a communist/socialistic approach. I'm surprised it flew over your head
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:01 pm to
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making my arguments using a communist/socialistic approach.

Imagine!
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:04 pm to
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communist/socialistic approach.


If you have a minor in econ as you say, this just makes you look even more like a retard.

Nothing stagnates innovation and upward mobility more than a socialistic and communist approach to economics.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:04 pm to
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Imagine!
I'm honestly surprised that not a single person called me out on it You guys are slipping
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