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Residential hurricane design standard

Posted on 9/29/22 at 9:54 pm
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 9/29/22 at 9:54 pm




Replacing my house on the bay following hurricane Harvey I wanted it to be compliant with hurricane design standards and was amazed by the quantity of galvanized steel straps that were used to tie everything together. The county building permit required the top of foundation to be a foot and a half above the fema flood plain requirement.

I was told that design standards were comparable to Florida which were the best.

Looking at the Florida destruction I can only conclude that stds in Florida either were not followed or the stds are inadequate . Based on the number of double wides, I suspect compliance issues,


Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103976 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 9:57 pm to
The current Florida standards weren't around when most of that shite was built... and they don't apply to "mobile" homes.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 9/29/22 at 9:57 pm to
Standard in FL are most stringent in the country. But that only applies to new construction.
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19144 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 9:58 pm to
Simpson strong ties
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80669 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 9:59 pm to
Only so much you can do against a Cat5
Posted by Athis
I AM Charlie Kirk....
Member since Aug 2016
16341 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 10:04 pm to
quote:

Standard in FL are most stringent in the country. But that only applies to new construction.


This is what I am thinking.. I saw some aerial pics and there were some houses that looked intact.. like zero damage. There was a lot flooding debris in the streets all around the houses. But I did see some bare foundations/slabs.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18912 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 10:05 pm to
Most ratings are only for up to about a CAT3. It’s also not just the structural ties but the overall shape of the building.
Posted by ILurkThereforeIAm
In the Shadows, Behind Hedges
Member since Aug 2020
817 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 10:10 pm to
Those standards apply to rehabilitation and new construction. If a mobile home is being immobilized and requires a permit, then it has to meet those standards as well (wind rating, elevation requirements, etc). But if it’s not being immobilized and it’s on a temporary site like a campground, then I guess you can get by without the required compliance.

But if you’re in a flood zone or hurricane prone area and you live in an older house that doesn’t have a mortgage (which requires insurance coverage) you can stay at grade and not up to the latest building codes, as long as you don’t apply for a permit to have work done. That may be why so many houses sit in disrepair, people would rather live in those circumstances because they can’t afford to meet new elevation/building code requirements.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11686 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 10:11 pm to
You’re looking at old construction that was built before the codes were changed. Are you dull?
This post was edited on 9/29/22 at 10:12 pm
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
17925 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 10:13 pm to
quote:

Based on the number of double wides, I suspect compliance issues,

Mobile homes aren’t subject to local building codes. They’re regulated by DOT.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103976 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 10:14 pm to
quote:

you can stay at grade and not up to the latest building codes, as long as you don’t apply for a permit to have work done.


Even then if the work being done isn't worth 50% or more of the value then the existing structure doesn't usually have to be brought up to current code.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11686 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 10:14 pm to
Correct, building codes apply to site built construction, whether it be frame, masonry or steel
Posted by PaBon
UPT 17th W/D
Member since Sep 2014
2267 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 10:16 pm to
Are you in a high velocity zone? The building codes should be ample.
Posted by Langland
Trumplandia
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 9/29/22 at 10:18 pm to
quote:

Only so much you can do against a Cat5

You can avoid building on the coastline.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103976 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 10:20 pm to
quote:

Only so much you can do against a Cat5


Easy to design for one, just expensive to build it.

Probably cheaper to build for a Cat 3 then repair a few times.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72013 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 10:28 pm to
quote:

Easy to design for one


I think that if I ever build a new house in louisiana, it'll be built like a ship. Welded girders and a plate shell. Tired of this shite.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 10:31 pm to
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11686 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 10:32 pm to
I live in PCB. Most of bay and Walton counties are in the windborne debris region, which requires more stringent building methods
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11686 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 10:34 pm to
If you look at Alys Beach on 30A, it’s all masonry construction. They are designed to take a hit from a Cat 5. The weak points are always the openings and the roof to wall connections.

Impact glass and doors are required, including garage doors.

Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15742 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 11:22 pm to
quote:

Mobile homes aren’t subject to local building codes. They’re regulated by DOT.


Mobile home are regulated by HUD and HUD sets the building requirements. There are 3 wind zones with different building requirements for each zone.

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