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Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:09 am
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:09 am
I have an in-sink disposal that is popping the GFCI. However, if I use a cheater adapter to take out the third round plug (ground) then it works just fine.

It just started this yesterday. What is the most likely fix? Replace the GFCI, the standard wall socket under the sink or the disposal?
Posted by Steadyhands
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:12 am to
Disposal is probably going out/shorting out. It might be grounding out to the case/shell, which is a bad reason to cheat and take away the ground wire. You can try swapping the GFCI out, but if that doesn't resolve the issue.... I'd say it's time for a new disposal or find a place that can repair that one.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:15 am to
It sounds like the GFCI is doing its job correctly.
Posted by fishfighter
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:17 am to
When it runs, is it running freely?

How old is the GFCI and how many times it has tripped? They do get weak over time if they been tripped a bunch.

Oh, NEVER go without GFCI protection.
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 8:19 am
Posted by Boudreaux35
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:21 am to
Do you have a separate GFCI outlet/circuit within reach of an extension cord? If so, give that a shot and see if it trips that one. If not, it's probably your outlet going bad.
Posted by BoogaBear
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:54 am to
quote:

It just started this yesterday. What is the most likely fix? Replace the GFCI, the standard wall socket under the sink or the disposal?


Well, removing the safety measures from the plug and going against wiring code is definitely not the correct thing.

Replace the disposal.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45767 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:54 am to
quote:

Do you have a separate GFCI outlet/circuit within reach of an extension cord? If so, give that a shot and see if it trips that one. If not, it's probably your outlet going bad.
I do. I will try that.
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:55 am to
defeating the gfci is an easy way to get electrocuted, buy a new disposal
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Member since Oct 2010
45767 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:00 am to
Yep, it popped a second GFCI. Bummer. Those things are a pain in the arse to replace. Put that in about a year and half ago to replace one that was in for eleven years before it went.

Thanks, guys.
Posted by Boudreaux35
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:06 am to
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Those things are a pain in the arse to replace. Put that in about a year and half ago to replace one that was in for eleven years before it went.


While it isn't my choice of things to do with my free time, I can think of a lot of other repairs I'd much less enjoy that replacing a disposal. These days, they're almost plug-n-play.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:50 am to
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These days, they're almost plug-n-play.


Pretty much. They almost all use the same slip-ring style of attaching the motor housing to the sink collar these days. If you have a plug instead of having to wire in then it's pretty much a 10 minute job.

If you have a dishwasher hookup and forget to punch out the plastic plug in the grind chamber it'll be a much longer job later though.
Posted by BR Tiger
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:15 am to
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If you have a dishwasher hookup and forget to punch out the plastic plug in the grind chamber it'll be a much longer job later though.


Sounds like the voice of experience speaking. That mistake would suck to make.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:24 am to
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However, if I use a cheater adapter to take out the third round plug (ground) then it works just fine.


no offense but c'mon man, best way to die or bury a family member numb nuts

what part of water + electricity = do not bypass safety features do you not understand?

its a frickin $30-$50 cost to buy a new disposal
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 10:30 am
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Member since Oct 2010
45767 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:34 am to
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no offense but c'mon man, best way to die or bury a family member numb nuts
Hey... brainiac, WTF did you think I came to the OT?

Posted by Boudreaux35
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:34 am to
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its a frickin $30-$50 cost to buy a new disposal


A $30-$50 disposal is gonna wake the neighbors 3 trailers down every time you use it.
Posted by jpm0926
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:03 am to
The newer disposals should have a quick connect collar. Just twists on.
Posted by alphaandomega
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:32 am to
quote:

Well, removing the safety measures from the plug and going against wiring code is definitely not the correct thing.

Replace the disposal.




I would replace the GFCI first. It is cheaper than a new disposal and the likely culprit.

I would also make sure disposal spins freely. Use flashlight to look into it when it is on and see of all the weights spin. You could have something stuck in one of them and that is causing the problem.
Posted by Bullfrog
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Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:40 am to
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$30-$50 disposal is gonna wake the neighbors
Yep. A good one should be $100 ish or so.
Posted by papasmurf1269
Hells Pass
Member since Apr 2005
20898 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:41 am to
The garbage disposal it’s not supposed to be on a GFI anyway.
Posted by Tino
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Member since Dec 2004
86225 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:45 am to
Exactly
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