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re: Reports of multiple fatalities at an Oregon Community College
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:09 pm to roadGator
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:09 pm to roadGator
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Will the criminals turn in their guns if there's a ban?
I'm envisioning a true ban by force. I'm a huge 2A proponent, but I would acknowledge that a wholesale handgun ban would probably curb violence. A real one, where the state enforces it significantly.
Of course, I don't support that action. But I'm ok making the argument about whether we're willing to go that far instead of talking about incremental laws that are laughably inept.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:09 pm to roadGator
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Americans aren't killing each other at an alarming rate.
I'll give you a hint. They are young, come from single parent families and have no sense of honor, pride, self-respect, dignity, father more illegitimate children, love drugs, cherish drug money and have no desire to better themselves.
They are dying at an alarming rate and Barrak Hussein cares not.
Great non irrelevant deflection. We're talking about mass shootings in shared public communities and spaces, not intraracial crime. Gun bans would help this community as well too.
Yes, Americans are committing mass murders at an alarming rate.
270 mass shootings in 274 days this year.
Not enough for you?
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:10 pm to roadGator
We're gonna make them disappear through magic. And people will not be able to manufacture and sell on the black market, because of magic
This post was edited on 10/1/15 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:10 pm to CoopsjwReed
You can't say this:
And then use this
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Great non irrelevant deflection. We're talking about mass shootings in shared public communities and spaces, not intraracial crime. Gun bans would help this community as well too.
And then use this
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270 mass shootings in 274 days this year.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:11 pm to Pettifogger
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I'm a huge 2A proponent, but I would acknowledge that a wholesale handgun ban would probably curb violence. A real one, where the state enforces it significantly.
How do you call yourself a huge 2A proponent and yet remain utterly ignorant of the v Heller decision? Read up on it and try that post again...

Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:12 pm to CoopsjwReed
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Passed Obama care when he had a majority in the senate--- FAIL for you
YOU said "republican faction in congress"
He had majority senate, not the house. The house is part of congress.
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Went outside congress to negotiate the Iran deals ---
But said he'd veto any bill that hits his desk that banned the sanctions, ALSO had his democrats kill the bills so they wouldn't pass.
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PAssed obamacare --- has been a success for americans that arent self-indulged and self centered tPOS
Obamacare is GREAT! IF you get the credits and don't have to pay for it. HOWEVER, if you are a working American, YOUR insurance has went to shite and you probably pay more.
Thanks for playing though. You get points for the effort
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:12 pm to CoopsjwReed
quote:Nope.
Not enough for you?
We have to ban knives and bare hands first. Those murder way more people than guns.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:12 pm to Pettifogger
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I'm envisioning a true ban by force. I'm a huge 2A proponent, but I would acknowledge that a wholesale handgun ban would probably curb violence.

1) you don't realize just how many unregistered guns are out there
2) think of the billions of dollars it would cost to do this
3) think of the loss of police life while collecting the firearms that would cause
4) the criminals would still have their guns and we move closer to a totalitarian government with no way to defend ourselves.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:12 pm to Clames
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How do you call yourself a huge 2A proponent and yet remain utterly ignorant of the v Heller decision? Read up on it and try that post again...
Haha I worked on an amicus brief for the Heller case. Soooo...tell me what I said that is contrary to Heller or McDonald?
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:13 pm to Pettifogger
Yes i can because I was referring to mass shootings in shared INTERracial spaces.
Not inner city crime.
When all else fails for conservatives, pit america's problems on black people. Seeming the american way since 1789
Not inner city crime.
When all else fails for conservatives, pit america's problems on black people. Seeming the american way since 1789
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:15 pm to The Pirate King
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1) you don't realize just how many unregistered guns are out there
2) think of the billions of dollars it would cost to do this
3) think of the loss of police life while collecting the firearms that would cause
4) the criminals would still have their guns and we move closer to a totalitarian government with no way to defend ourselves.
FFS dude. I'm on your side. I'm saying that in a magical world where we decided to ban and collect guns by force, after that happened, we would probably see a violent crime reduction.
I'm also very clearly saying that I don't think we have the desire, political will, stomach, resources, etc. to do that.
My point is that even acknowledging that possibility (a complete gun ban could curb gun violence) it's still not a valid solution for America.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:15 pm to CoopsjwReed
Gun bans? You can't have a discussion if that's your goal. It's not happening.
I think the alarming rate of deaths is relevant. Barrak Hussein apparently does not.
I am interested in what your sociology professors tells your about how guns can be banned though.
Please detail his ideas on just how to do that and also how to get around the right to bear arms.
I think the alarming rate of deaths is relevant. Barrak Hussein apparently does not.
I am interested in what your sociology professors tells your about how guns can be banned though.
Please detail his ideas on just how to do that and also how to get around the right to bear arms.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:15 pm to CoopsjwReed
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Gun bans would help this community as well too.
bullshite. I know you aren't terribly bright when it comes to this topic but at least two major cities in the US had outright handgun bans and managed to have some of the highest per capita murder rates involving firearms at the same time.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:15 pm to Konkey Dong
Take that up with your insurance communities and the payment system for doctors. Its easy to redirect your frustration to fulfill your prophecies.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:15 pm to CoopsjwReed
No one is pinning the blame solely on black people you hack.
Just that odumbass ignores the thousands shot dead in the ghettos of America every year and chooses the "mass shootings" with usually under 20 dead as his soapbox.
Just that odumbass ignores the thousands shot dead in the ghettos of America every year and chooses the "mass shootings" with usually under 20 dead as his soapbox.
This post was edited on 10/1/15 at 6:16 pm
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:16 pm to Pettifogger
That "ban" part you ignorant liar...
What is this shite based on? Can you cite a single example that provides a statistically sound causative link between banning guns and a reduction in violent crimes? Or is that in the magical realm too?

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FFS dude. I'm on your side. I'm saying that in a magical world where we decided to ban and collect guns by force, after that happened, we would probably see a violent crime reduction.
What is this shite based on? Can you cite a single example that provides a statistically sound causative link between banning guns and a reduction in violent crimes? Or is that in the magical realm too?
This post was edited on 10/1/15 at 6:19 pm
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:16 pm to Clames
I'm lost. When has anyone, including Obama, tried to suggest an all out gun BAN??

Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:16 pm to Clames
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That "ban" part you ignorant liar...
What part of Heller has to do with my hypo about gun bans? I haven't said anything about the legality of a ban on handguns.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:17 pm to roadGator
Ive taken 1 sociology class.
It is relevant, but within another discussion. Apples and oranges
It is relevant, but within another discussion. Apples and oranges
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:17 pm to roadGator
In most Muslim based terrorist attacks religion is asked to the victims
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