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re: Report of Demon Possesion in Indiana
Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:01 pm to CottonWasKing
Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:01 pm to CottonWasKing
You said half was based on paganism. I know that Christmas is on the Winter Solstice. Do you think that constitutes half of Christianity?
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:08 pm to CottonWasKing
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I promise you I know the bible better than most Christians
Knowing the rules doesn't mean you know how to play the game my friend. You have to practice and play if you are going to provide commentary.
As it turns out, the teachings of Christ are rooted in principles of human kindness, but most of all, forgiveness. By accepting Him, you accept these principles and share them with the world...as a bonus you get to go hang out with Him when you die. You see, the goal is to play the game successfully, not to win. The point is not what can you do for God, it is what can God do for you?
There is one section of the Bible that is most important, and if you don't know that one better than most Christians, you have missed the point entirely. The Bible is not meant to be studied, it is meant to be applied.
I am always amused by people that come into these discussions ready to gloat about their knowledge. To me, it seems like these people always equip themselves with enough knowledge to convince themselves, and others, why the subject of faith doesn't apply to them. In that sense, it appears to be a subject that they are interested in, or else why even give it much thought? Why spend time rationalizing something you claim to be irrational? I don't mean this directed all at you, these are just some observations.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:11 pm to The First Cut
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You said half was based on paganism. I know that Christmas is on the Winter Solstice. Do you think that constitutes half of Christianity?
It's WAY more than that! I'll let him school you!Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:13 pm to OceanMan
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There is one section of the Bible that is most important, and if you don't know that one better than most Christians, you have missed the point entirely. The Bible is not meant to be studied, it is meant to be applied.
I'll get right on applying that part about owning slaves and making them obey you. And that it's ok to rape the female slaves as long as you punish them afterwards. Ill get right on applying that to my day to day life
This post was edited on 1/28/14 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:15 pm to The First Cut
Baptism - pagan ritual
Eating of bread and wine to symbolize the blood and flesh - pagan ritual
There are four of your most important rituals and traditions and they all stem from paganism. I can keep going if you'd like
Eating of bread and wine to symbolize the blood and flesh - pagan ritual
There are four of your most important rituals and traditions and they all stem from paganism. I can keep going if you'd like
Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:19 pm to CottonWasKing
This is what is known as lack of thesis support. More fallacy, zero facts. I get it, you're bitter about Christianity for whatever reason. I've been on your side of the fence (not as far away from the fence as you are) and am now on this side. Believe me, it's way better here - all aspects of life are better. You don't want it, that's cool, I have no problem with that. Just quit expelling your BS and move along.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:21 pm to CottonWasKing
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Baptism - pagan ritual Eating of bread and wine to symbolize the blood and flesh - pagan ritual There are four of your most important rituals and traditions and they all stem from paganism. I can keep going if you'd like
Wrong twice more. And placing Christmas on Winter Solstice was not to honor paganism, it was to eliminate it (guess what, it worked).
Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:23 pm to The First Cut
Do me a favor look up
Exodus 21-7-10
Leviticus 19-20-22
Exodus 22-16-17
Then come back to us
Exodus 21-7-10
Leviticus 19-20-22
Exodus 22-16-17
Then come back to us
Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:30 pm to CottonWasKing
Read them all. What's your point?
Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:32 pm to The First Cut
Idk just human beings bought bought and sold like pieces of meat
Nothing wrong with that I guess
Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:34 pm to CottonWasKing
Well in your vast,deep knowledge of the Bible, are you aware that the books you quoted are the history of God's chosen people - the people that were the enslaven. They were enslaved by the Egyptians, not vise-versa.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:38 pm to CottonWasKing
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Oh so you're actually going on record as saying that a large portion of Christian traditions aren't total rip offs of old pagan traditions?
I just like knowing just how wrong you are
I'm not sure how you gleamed that from his post.
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Hell the two most important holidays in Christianity, Easter and Christmas, share the same dates and the same ideas as pre-Christian pagan religions.
You should probably explain what you are talking about here. You saying that the pre-Christian pagan religions celebrated the birth and death of their saviors/deities? So these days were probably fairly well known dates in the BC era, as they were celebrations; who doesn't like to party? Another guy comes along about 2,000 years ago, which people deem worthy of celebrating his birth and death. Since he was born in a barn, might have been tough to get a hold of an accurate birth certificate, especially not knowing he would be a future celebrity. So people that follow his life choose to celebrate his birth and death days already designated as celebrations, as the exact dates are fairly arbitrary, as the main point is to remember Him.
Fast-forward 2,000 years, wouldn't you know it, people are still celebrating on those days. Is anyone talking about some Roman sun-god? Not that I have seen. To further illustrate my point, people of all denominations, and even atheists, have some sort of celebration this time of year. It is traditionally a time to spend with family and loved ones, even if you have never read one word of scripture.
The point is just because the dates and some traditions are shared, the reasons for celebrating are quite different.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:48 pm to OceanMan
Pagans also told a story of three magi visiting their savior at his birth.
They have similar tales of the thieves at the crucifixion. One going to heaven one going to hell.
The folklore surrounding Christianity is literally riddled with stories that are almost identical to the ones told by pre-Christian pagans
They have similar tales of the thieves at the crucifixion. One going to heaven one going to hell.
The folklore surrounding Christianity is literally riddled with stories that are almost identical to the ones told by pre-Christian pagans
This post was edited on 1/28/14 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:51 pm to CottonWasKing
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I'll get right on applying that part about owning slaves and making them obey you. And that it's ok to rape the female slaves as long as you punish them afterwards. Ill get right on applying that to my day to day life
Ok, I get it, you didn't like the book that much so you didn't finish reading it, or maybe just jumped around and read the parts that were convenient for you to disagree with, just like my post. I'll give you a hint; the part I was referring to is at the beginning of the new testament. Actually kind of mentioned what part I was talking about, and the principles to be applied, but oh well.
Another thing, is raping slaves really a principle to apply? I mean seriously dude, do you really think that Chrisitans just read the Bible and think that every action that was taken is acceptable, you do it, and then you go to heaven?
You said it yourself, its an old book; all of the stories are meant to teach lessons. These lessons had to be taught to people thousands of years ago, so I would think someone with such a vast knowledge for the bible could appreciate the historical contexts of these stories. The New Testament was written to teach people for the future. So go ahead and try to grab something out of context there to prove your point, but you seriously sound like the college freshmen that has taken one sociology class, and now thinks he is smarter and more enlightened than his parents.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:51 pm to OceanMan
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In that sense, it appears to be a subject that they are interested in, or else why even give it much thought? Why spend time rationalizing something you claim to be irrational?
I can answer this one, as this fun little video explains my position on this question quite nicely.
LINK
If I wasn't inundated by it daily in one form or another, I'd give it as much thought as I do all other things which I consider to be mythology. That's not a flippant response...it's true. I consider what I do in threads like these, or in my daily life when I discuss these things, to be a return of serve. If there wasn't a serve, I'd be standing on my side of the net minding my own damn business. At the same time, I think it's unreasonable to continue to serve at me and expect me to not answer back, and to label me a closet believer if I do.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:53 pm to GeauxTigerTM
I don't "think" I have. I know what I've seen. I've seen war abroad and spirits back home.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:54 pm to OceanMan
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Another thing, is raping slaves really a principle to apply? I mean seriously dude, do you really think that Chrisitans just read the Bible and think that every action that was taken is acceptable, you do it, and then you go to heaven?
The point is that yes many many Christians do believe in a literal interpretation of the bible. You may not be one of them, I hope you aren't. I have no problem with someone being a Christian if they display some common sense /"@ too many are incapable of that though
Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:55 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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If I wasn't inundated by it daily in one form or another, I'd give it as much thought as I do all other things which I consider to be mythology. That's not a flippant response...it's true. I consider what I do in threads like these, or in my daily life when I discuss these things, to be a return of serve. If there wasn't a serve, I'd be standing on my side of the net minding my own damn business. At the same time, I think it's unreasonable to continue to serve at me and expect me to not answer back, and to label me a closet believer if I do.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 5:55 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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And for no other reason than it's more entertaining than the last video I posted and I think, in general, it fits this topic really well, I give you Neil DeGrasse Tyson explaining UFOs...
LINK
The problem I have with what he said and others who share this line of thinking is that the very scientific method they espouse (and I as well) does not begin without first proposing a hypothesis.
Only then can you answer the question of whether or not the evidence upholds. If it doesn't, then you move on to the next hypothesis or await further evidence.
But HYPOTHESIZING an explanation for some phenomenon is an important part of science.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 6:01 pm to Mohican
Seriously how is this thread still going?
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