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re: Remembering the absurdity of 2020

Posted on 10/25/22 at 1:04 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283507 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 1:04 pm to
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Yep, the "follow the science" groupies.


while constantly demonstrating they don't understand science.

To them, science was an outcome.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85141 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 1:05 pm to
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You serious?

Most switched once it lasted for months, but almost every person was on board with starting shutdowns.

There were very few people who wanted nothing to do with them in entirety.


I'm reading the "shelter in place" thread right now

this is completely false

Posted by TigerinOkieHell
Oklahoma City
Member since Oct 2010
2817 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 1:05 pm to
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Based on whose information? Ours or Fauci's? From ours, then yeah assuming it's true, then I would have at the time again (never again though). Fauci had information that hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin could fight this disease, but it'd interfere with everything he was trying to do in doing an emergency vaccine protocol. Trump should have listened to his instincts and not that genocidal little elf who was intentionally misleading him.



I'm saying if another situation arose next year where the information we have high level is "We have a virus that is now showing up here, we are not sure exactly how fatal it is but it could worst case be very fatal across all age groups, and if it all hits at once hospitals will fail because we aren't prepared" and you asked me if I would agree to a two week period like back then to let everyone prepare then yes I would.

That is at least how it was portrayed to everyone back then, regardless of how we look at it in hindsight, and in that context the original 2 weeks I felt (and still feel) had validity. The continuation afterwards and lockdowns for months are a completely different story and I would not support that unless you actually verified the fatality rate was all groups, and 5-10%+. To me the 2 weeks was meant to be lets get an idea of what the hell we have, and be prepared. Not lets just shut everything down cause lol we can and you'll let us.

The only thing I would do different today versus back then is much more heavily scrutinize that information. Back then, just kind of accepted that was the case. Today if it happened, would probably really want to see data or other support before agreeing to it.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 1:06 pm to
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To them, science was an outcome.



No, it was an order.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
83908 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 1:06 pm to
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Broke a lot of nurses.



You can pry the "A HERO LIVES HERE" sign out of my cold, dead lawn
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85141 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 1:06 pm to
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Salmon was a huge proponent of following authority and being a good little citizen.


Roger lying again

quote:

He actually believed if we obeyed it would end quickly...


This is true though. I did believe that we could prevent the incoming lockdowns. That was obviously very naïve.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
75173 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 1:07 pm to
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shelter in place
Is this the super thread?

Can you link it? Want a re-read.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85141 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 1:09 pm to
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Is this the super thread?


No. Its the thread when JBE announced the "Shelter in Place" order

quote:

Can you link it? Want a re-read.


:sigh: I just clicked off it
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
75173 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 1:09 pm to
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No. Its the thread when JBE announced the "Shelter in Place" order
Ah.

Don’t remember that one at all.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85141 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 1:10 pm to
well I can assure you, it was not 95% support
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7296 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 1:10 pm to
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nobody in the world batted 1.000 on COVID


I batted fricking .950

Came home from work trip to an office shut down.
I was sick for a few days upon return, mostly likely had Covid considering I was with an Italian freaking vendor.

The wife and kids didn't go out until April, but I went out EVERY DAY. Our first trip out was to go hiking in a State Park, but got turned around at every one (North Georgia) because they were at capacity. We picked some random spot on the river and skipped rocks.

I went back to the office in May and resumed travel within driving distance.
The kids and I went to rocket launches twice in May.
We went on vacation in Florida in May.
We went to the beach in June.
We went to Disney in July.
We went back the beach in July.
We went back to Disney in October.
We had Thanksgiving with family.
We had Christmas with family.
We spent NYE at Seaworld, surrounded by humans.
We camped with groups at least 6x during the year.

So, frick all the covid-ists. I actually MISS those days, because packing up and going places was so easy. Bring your laptops and you can be at work or school from anywhere. We never spent so much time with the grandparents as we did in 2020.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
75173 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 1:10 pm to
The thread I remember the most is the primary super thread.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
9280 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 1:11 pm to
I thought this was going to be a look back on CHAZ/CHOP.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 1:11 pm to
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I'm saying if another situation arose next year where the information we have high level is "We have a virus that is now showing up here, we are not sure exactly how fatal it is but it could worst case be very fatal across all age groups, and if it all hits at once hospitals will fail because we aren't prepared" and you asked me if I would agree to a two week period like back then to let everyone prepare then yes I would.



No, our health institutions just admitted last week that they didn't even test the vaccine to see if it actually slows the spread of Covid. That's the only reason many millions of us got vaxxed, because I didn't fear the virus past April 2020 save for how it could harm my older loved ones. That's a major crime against humanity, possibly the biggest since China's Great Leap Forward. We will not know the actual results of the vaccines for around a decade.

Sorry, they're all fricking liars and even if the Black Death is here I will not believe them until I can see it with my own eyes. They did this, not me. It's still the official line from the government that it came from a wet market when it nearly 100% came from that lab which we have receipts of Fauci financing the EcoHealth Alliance through Peter Daszak to make chimeric coronaviruses derived from bats and pangolins in Wuhan. Does that virus sound familiar to you?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283507 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 1:12 pm to
Salmon was a huge proponent of following authority and being a good little citizen.


Roger lying again

quote:

quote:
He actually believed if we obeyed it would end quickly...



quote:

This is true though. I did believe that we could prevent the incoming lockdowns. That was obviously very naïve.


lolol..

You were pro authoritarian, and believed we could get through this by being good citizens.
This post was edited on 10/25/22 at 1:13 pm
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11310 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 1:13 pm to
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No one with any sense can logically explain how a restaurant patron had to wear a mask to his/her table because of covid, but was safe to remove it once seated !


My modest proposal to amputate everyone above the knee to get everyone to chair level (where covid doesn't live) fell on deaf (or masked muffled) ears...
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85141 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 1:13 pm to
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The thread I remember the most is the primary super thread.


Ok. Even in that thread, only a very small handful of posters touted the "if we don't do something, millions are going to die" line

and those posters were pretty much universally mocked, see Mr. Perfect
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283507 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 1:15 pm to
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They did this


Science is awesome, but its not the end all. Sanity, economy, etc all have to be considered and used to mitigate harm.

Covidians "believed the science" of Covid but rejected the science in every other arena.

Sometimes the medically prudent thing isn't best for society. You can't give the medical field that much power.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85141 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 1:16 pm to
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You were pro authoritarian,


I was not. I saw the lockdowns coming and wrongly believed if people stayed home, we could prevent the actual government lockdowns from coming.

That was obviously very wrong.

I never supported the government lockdowns. That is a lie.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283507 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 1:17 pm to
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You were pro authoritarian,


I was not.


Do you understand what "comply" means?
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