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Posted on 6/24/21 at 8:13 pm to vol-boy
That part of Miami is very Latin. If you go up to sunny isles that’s where all of the Russians are.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 8:15 pm to LSU82BILL
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These coverage amounts are fine for everything that can possible happen - except for this. Their best shot is being able to find a well-insured liable party.
You’re misinformed on how insurance works. The HOA or COA has a master policy that covers the entire building. Each individual owner is only covering drywall in for their unit. The building will be covered but it will take time to figure out what the hell happened.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 8:29 pm to When in Rome
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So in the case of field amputations like this, do they knock the person out before they get started? Do they get a surgeon to the site to perform the operation? I mean that just sounds horrific.
I don't know if there's a standard procedure everywhere, but there was a field amputation locally after the tornado in Fultondale in February. UAB sent out a trauma surgeon, an ER doc, and two trauma nurses. EMTs had already run an IV, so I'd guess they delivered the general anesthesia that way.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 8:43 pm to DCtiger1
Technically studs in, but the point still stands
Posted on 6/24/21 at 9:37 pm to hawgndodge
bad weather rolling in...causing debris to fall off building.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 9:45 pm to bikerack
Late to the discussion, but I recall a story about a reinforced concrete structure (condo or the like) that had to be demo'd soon after main construction had been completed. Seems they used beach sand to save money (sand is sand, right?), but didn't wash it and the salt water led to rapid corrosion of the rebar.
Also lots of articles online about the perils of using even properly cleaned beach sand in concrete.
Prayers to all.
Also lots of articles online about the perils of using even properly cleaned beach sand in concrete.
Prayers to all.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 9:53 pm to Unobtanium
From the footage I’ve seen, the rebar looks good and no signs of corrosion that would lead me to think that was the cause of failure. From video, looks almost like a connection failure.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:05 pm to Capt ST
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connection failure.
Wow, crazy to think it held up for ~40 years.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:10 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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Somewhere, there is a structural engineer with a puckered a-hole.
If this condo is 40 years old, wouldn’t he be retired or dead by now?
Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:17 pm to LSUneaux
Looking at pre-collapse pictures, the structure looks pretty unique to me. It had these sort of wrap-around concrete porches cantilevered out into the air, to provide residents with balconies. The part of the tower that didn't collapse lacks this architectural feature.
This makes me wonder what forces this design was generating, and how they were supposed to be managed.
There are definitely big condo buildings like that in Midtown Atlanta, Buckhead, etc., but they don't look quite like that to me.
This makes me wonder what forces this design was generating, and how they were supposed to be managed.
There are definitely big condo buildings like that in Midtown Atlanta, Buckhead, etc., but they don't look quite like that to me.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:19 pm to USMEagles
Heard something in passing about the structure was deemed to be sinking 3cm a year. What was that about? Not sure if that is within the spectrum of normal down there.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:24 pm to fightin tigers
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Heard something in passing about the structure was deemed to be sinking 3cm a year. What was that about? Not sure if that is within the spectrum of normal down there.
I think it was more like 3mm, but no, the people who discovered that didn't consider it normal at all. Over 40 years, assuming that rate, that's 12cm of sinkage- basically 5 inches.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:27 pm to USMEagles
Ok, 3mm could have been the statement. I have no idea where that falls so I have no idea if that is a shocker or just a passing. Along the lines of finding termite damage on a house in NOLA 
I can only imagine the horror of anyone left in that second part of the tower for the brief time it remained standing.
I can only imagine the horror of anyone left in that second part of the tower for the brief time it remained standing.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:47 pm to fightin tigers
I had posted the article about that earlier in the thread. The guy who did the study says it’s related.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 11:40 pm to BowlJackson
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Francis Suarez, Republican
This didn’t occur in the city of Miami and the Miami-dade county mayor is a democrat, although that’s pretty irrelevant right now.
This post was edited on 6/24/21 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 6/24/21 at 11:57 pm to Yellerhammer5
Think it is in Miami-Dade County, but also another jurisdiction. Some smaller city.
No idea if they have a mayor-president type situation like BR or Jeff Parish.
Like you said though, don't think either mayor has anything to do with this though. A system failure like inspections would probably span years or decades and involve lots of layers.
No idea if they have a mayor-president type situation like BR or Jeff Parish.
Like you said though, don't think either mayor has anything to do with this though. A system failure like inspections would probably span years or decades and involve lots of layers.
This post was edited on 6/24/21 at 11:59 pm
Posted on 6/25/21 at 12:13 am to fightin tigers
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Think it is in Miami-Dade County, but also another jurisdiction. Some smaller city.
Surfside
Posted on 6/25/21 at 6:38 am to USMEagles
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Over 40 years, assuming that rate, that's 12cm of sinkage- basically 5 inches.
5 inches is alot of settlement, and it would likely be noticeable from cracks in walls, windows and doors that bind up, uneven floors,etc.
But I doubt it would cause this type of failure
Posted on 6/25/21 at 7:16 am to fightin tigers
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Think it is in Miami-Dade County, but also another jurisdiction. Some smaller city.
No idea if they have a mayor-president type situation like BR or Jeff Parish.
The county has a mayor and all the cities have their own mayors as well.
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