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RAM warranty voided due to lack of oil changes. Denies engine replacement.

Posted on 1/27/22 at 4:02 pm
Posted by boudinman
Member since Nov 2019
5043 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 4:02 pm
Canadian man stuck with $19,000 cost of a new engiine after RAM voids his truck warranty. Owner says oil changes were done at a 3rd party shop.

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Posted by crap4brain
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2004
2501 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 4:03 pm to
First mistake was buying a Dodge.
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2017
12856 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 4:04 pm to
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Owner says oil changes were done at a 3rd party shop.


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warranty voided


Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16489 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 4:04 pm to
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Owner says oil changes were done at a 3rd party shop.


Should be extremely easy to prove if he really did get the oil changed
Posted by Bob Sacamano
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
5277 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 4:04 pm to
Man that sucks. This is why I get all my work done at the dealership. Pay a premium for peace of mind I guess.

I liked my Ram, but flipped into a ford, I find the powertrain to be better.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27824 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 4:05 pm to
I’m betting he didn’t actually get the oil changed.
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
24584 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 4:06 pm to
Well if you buy the warranty then bring it to the dealership for your oil change.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
53799 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 4:08 pm to
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This is why I get all my work done at the dealership. Pay a premium for peace of mind I guess.


Yeah, but you shouldn’t have to “pay a premium” for them to honor a warranty. It’s easy enough to document oil changes done at a shop for much less than a dealership charges.
Posted by Swagga
504
Member since Dec 2009
16144 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 4:11 pm to
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"When I asked them why it was not covered under warranty, they mentioned at 50,000 kilometers the oil switch came on and I didn't get an oil change done right away," said Fosuo. Fosuo said when he had the oil changed at a third party oil shop, he was told the truck could travel 24,000 kilometres between oil changes. Fosuo said the truck did not come with a physical owner's manual.


I hate to say it, but if my truck is under warranty I’m not listening to a 3rd party on extending the life of an oil change. And I find the no owners manual part hard to believe as well.

ETA: that’s 15k miles. I don’t know any oil places recommending that.
This post was edited on 1/27/22 at 4:14 pm
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16489 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 4:11 pm to
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Well if you buy the warranty then bring it to the dealership for your oil change.



He bought the truck brand new, it came with a warranty. Even if he had paid extra for an extended warranty, why would you have to go back to the dealership for oil changes?
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16569 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 4:12 pm to
Sucks to be a Candian. In the US the Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act would give him the ability to take Ram to court and prove that the oil changes by the 3rd party caused the failure. Given it's a Ram it was going to fail anyway.
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
3444 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 4:22 pm to
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$19,000 cost of a new engiine




Does anyone find this to be out of line ? I mean, i know inflation and all.. but i feel like pre-Panny, a new engine could be got for about 1/3 to 1/4 of that .
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
2982 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 4:23 pm to
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Canadian man stuck with $19,000 cost of a new engiine after RAM voids his truck warranty. Owner says oil changes were done at a 3rd party shop.



In the US, this is illegal. Owner can perform the maintenance himself or go third party. So long as its done.
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
2982 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 4:25 pm to
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Does anyone find this to be out of line ? I mean, i know inflation and all.. but i feel like pre-Panny, a new engine could be got for about 1/3 to 1/4 of that .


It's Canadian, so it's going to be about 30% more than US. And he has the eco-diesel engine supplied by VM. Not the standard V8 Hemi.

I bet he with with Amsoil or something with those advertised extended oil change intervals.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49249 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 4:26 pm to
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$19,000 cost of a new engiine


Canuck bucks but ouch.

I guarantee they can tell each time the oil life monitor was reset on that truck. They know he didn't change the oil like he was supposed to. The owner even says he was "told" he could run it to 25k which is false.

Also, the engine seized? Was probably OUT of oil.
This post was edited on 1/27/22 at 4:27 pm
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
54885 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 4:26 pm to
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Does anyone find this to be out of line ? I mean, i know inflation and all.. but i feel like pre-Panny, a new engine could be got for about 1/3 to 1/4 of that .


That's the price in Canadian Pesos.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119148 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 4:26 pm to
Try doing that with john Deere
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
2982 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 4:27 pm to
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Given it's a Ram it was going to fail anyway.


Honestly a HEMI probably would have kept going with that mileage. But he bought a very elaborate and highly questionable 3.0L V6 diesel built by an Italian company.

It's a design commissioned by Cadillac about 15-20 years ago for their European market, but rejected due to engineering concerns. Fiat updated it a few times since then to meet emissions for US and supplied it for RAM trucks.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119148 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 4:28 pm to
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This is why I get all my work done at the dealership. Pay a premium for peace of mind I guess.


When I had my F150, an oil change at the dealer cost me around $35-40, that was 8 quarts and a filter. They did coupons all the time for $34.99.
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
2982 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 4:29 pm to
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Try doing that with john Deere



Deere has been losing market share because of their shady practices. They are front and center in all these right to repair lawsuits.
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