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re: Railroad Unions are ready to shut it all down
Posted on 9/13/22 at 2:37 pm to TxWadingFool
Posted on 9/13/22 at 2:37 pm to TxWadingFool
You know, I think I just hate everything. Big business, big labor, big government.
About the only big thing I like are boobs
About the only big thing I like are boobs
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Posted on 9/13/22 at 2:38 pm to Oilfieldbiology
Cheap bid for upvotes.
*I upvoted.
*I upvoted.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 2:43 pm to CENLALSUFAN
Of the 15 or so unions, all but two have agreed in principal to new contracts, but the remaining unions of engineers and conductors counts for a large portion of workers. It sounds like the differences are largely from work rules/quality of life and not salaries.
The cooling off period ends Friday at 0001, the unions are then free to strike. Being an election year, I have a hard time seeing the government allow this to carry on more than a day or so, recent past labor actions have been resolved in a matter of days. I think democratic leadership will throw their weight around with the unions to try and get them to accept a deal and minimize disruption.
I believe CSX stopped taking Hazmat shipments yesterday because they have to keep moving and can't risk being stopped on a terminal during a strike. I believe NS or BNSF stop intaking any goods at all at some of its terminals Monday.
The cooling off period ends Friday at 0001, the unions are then free to strike. Being an election year, I have a hard time seeing the government allow this to carry on more than a day or so, recent past labor actions have been resolved in a matter of days. I think democratic leadership will throw their weight around with the unions to try and get them to accept a deal and minimize disruption.
I believe CSX stopped taking Hazmat shipments yesterday because they have to keep moving and can't risk being stopped on a terminal during a strike. I believe NS or BNSF stop intaking any goods at all at some of its terminals Monday.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 3:01 pm to Oilfieldbiology
quote:I'm retired so I'm not shutting down no matter what.
So are y’all shutting down or not?
Posted on 9/13/22 at 3:35 pm to SM6
quote:
I believe CSX stopped taking Hazmat shipments yesterday because they have to keep moving and can't risk being stopped on a terminal during a strike. I believe NS or BNSF stop intaking any goods at all at some of its terminals Monday.
UP as well .
Posted on 9/13/22 at 4:16 pm to CENLALSUFAN
Just read the signalmen rejected their tentative agreement.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 4:18 pm to CENLALSUFAN
Excellent
Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:12 am to AlterDWI
Why is that excellent? What was the counter proposal and what are they asking for?
Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:14 am to Horsemeat
This is very bad....our economy and our supply chain can not support not having the rail available.
All goods especially durable goods and groceries are about to become extremely scarce if this happens/last.
All goods especially durable goods and groceries are about to become extremely scarce if this happens/last.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:15 am to AlterDWI
Agreed, hope they stand strong.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:39 am to Damone
You know Damone. If I took the opposite opinion of yours on every topic, I have to say I’d feel right better than 80% of the time.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:01 am to Oilfieldbiology
Cool. Nine times out of ten I will side with labor over corporations.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:58 pm to Damone
Machinist and signal men have both rejected their tentative agreements now.
Under the machinist Facebook page there is this, so they've signed an extension and won't be striking on the 16th.
"The Tentative Agreement has been rejected and the strike authorization vote was approved by IAM District 19 members. Out of respect for other unions in the ratification process, an extension has been agreed to until Sept. 29, 2022 at 12 p.m. ET. This extension will allow us to continue to negotiate changes with the NCCC in the hopes of achieving an agreement our membership would ratify."
Under the machinist Facebook page there is this, so they've signed an extension and won't be striking on the 16th.
"The Tentative Agreement has been rejected and the strike authorization vote was approved by IAM District 19 members. Out of respect for other unions in the ratification process, an extension has been agreed to until Sept. 29, 2022 at 12 p.m. ET. This extension will allow us to continue to negotiate changes with the NCCC in the hopes of achieving an agreement our membership would ratify."
Posted on 9/14/22 at 5:41 pm to LATECHgradLSUfan
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Any railroad workers here that can shed some light on this?
Is it going down or is it gonna fizzle?
You are released to potentially strike tomorrow unless Congress steps in, correct?
Any railroad workers here that can shed some light on this?
Is it going down or is it gonna fizzle?
You are released to potentially strike tomorrow unless Congress steps in, correct?
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 5:42 pm
Posted on 9/14/22 at 5:45 pm to TheFlyingTiger
Not a RR worker but all indications have been that the unions’ sticking point has been hours/leave far more than pay.
Congress forcing a 20% raise but not addressing other issues is a band aid and not a fix.
Congress forcing a 20% raise but not addressing other issues is a band aid and not a fix.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 5:51 pm to teke184
These unions have been pissed off since they outlawed the caboose. That caboose money was sweet. Just sit back there and pound beers and wave a lantern every now and then.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 5:56 pm to TheFlyingTiger
I gotta know how many points you lose from the 30 for each no-call no-show.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:01 pm to fightin tigers
quote:
gotta know how many points you lose from the 30 for each no-call no-show.
I'm willing to bet it's based on when you do it.
Like holidays, or days you requested off you didn't get, and then whether or not you're a repeat offender.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:10 pm to SM6
quote:
I believe CSX stopped taking Hazmat shipments yesterday because they have to keep moving and can't risk being stopped on a terminal during a strike. I believe NS or BNSF stop intaking any goods at all at some of its terminals Monday.
Only a certain list of hazmat shipments, but yes all but the CPRS issued that embargo on Monday.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:14 pm to threeputtforbogie
CPRS (Canadian Pacific) isn't on the national agreement.
It's trains will be stacking up though when they can't be interchanged to the US carriers.
It's trains will be stacking up though when they can't be interchanged to the US carriers.
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