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re: Quiet Quitting? Well that a new term.

Posted on 8/21/22 at 10:03 am to
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/21/22 at 10:03 am to
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quote:the decision to go to a state professional school (cheap) rather than a more prestigious one that cost many times more? See above.


LSU is half the cost of Tulane. And you can make solid cash clerking your first and second summers.


It’s about a quarter to a third of other schools I could have attended.

If you don’t think that a 50 to 75 percent reduction in debt is material, well, here’s your sign.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 8/21/22 at 10:04 am to
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LSU is half the cost of Tulane. And you can make solid cash clerking your first and second summers.


It’s about a quarter to a third of other schools I could have attended.

If you don’t think that a 50 to 75 percent reduction in debt is material, well, here’s your sign.


You talking about private and public universities is about as intellectually dishonest as you can get
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463877 posts
Posted on 8/21/22 at 10:06 am to
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every generation before them had it super-duper easy in life.

Strawman

The argument is that they had it easier, with more economic opportunities, especially to advance.

The data clearly show this is 100% correct.

I'll never understand why Gen X/Boomers get so defensive about reality and ignore reality to post boomermemes in response to data.
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
5034 posts
Posted on 8/21/22 at 10:06 am to
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LSU is half the cost of Tulane. And you can make solid cash clerking your first and second summers.


It’s about a quarter to a third of other schools I could have attended.

If you don’t think that a 50 to 75 percent reduction in debt is material, well, here’s your sign.




Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 8/21/22 at 10:06 am to
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I'll repeat myself, you continue to take this shite so personal like it's an attack. You had better circumstances from 18-35 which set you up for real wealth growth. Your schooling wasn't absurdly expensive. Homes, which are most people's largest asset, were way more affordable. Good jobs were plentiful and didn't require secondary education. All of that is ok to recognize and still understand its not like someone was mailing you money. You still had to work for it. It was just easier to get the opportunity, you still had to seize it.


Look. I know there is some truth there.

I just don’t believe I ever would have quietly quit if I’d had diminished circumstances.

You find a way.

There were also personal circumstances in those first years that cost me a couple of hundred grand. I’m betting that evened the field a bit.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 8/21/22 at 10:08 am to
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You talking about private and public universities is about as intellectually dishonest as you can get


Explain.

I chose to go public rather than private to avoid debt.

How is that dishonest?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
35782 posts
Posted on 8/21/22 at 10:09 am to
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I just don’t believe I ever would have quietly quit if I’d had diminished circumstances


I have a great career and I won't either because I have tons of room for advancement. That doesn't preclude me from understanding why others wouldn't. I see it all the time, shite the people I see stuck in a shitty middle management job that are resigned to taking their COL raise every year just punching the clock are X'ers. They've most certainly "quietly quit"

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There were also personal circumstances in those first years that cost me a couple of hundred grand. I’m betting that evened the field a bit.


It didn't compared to millennials
Posted by sawtooth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2017
3588 posts
Posted on 8/21/22 at 10:10 am to
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he’s gonna get a boot up his arse.


I bet you like putting things up people’s arse. It is the Greek way of life. You probably prefer gerbils.
This post was edited on 8/21/22 at 10:11 am
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
5034 posts
Posted on 8/21/22 at 10:10 am to
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How is that dishonest?



Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9508 posts
Posted on 8/21/22 at 10:12 am to
JudgeCuck doesn't understand data; only his revisionist historical anecdotes about the good ol days in Mayberry.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76464 posts
Posted on 8/21/22 at 10:14 am to
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I chose to go public rather than private to avoid debt.
Public universities have become so expensive, they are currently putting people in debt.

How much do you think tuition and cost of living comes out to for a full time 4 year public university nowadays?

For example, LSU is $12k a year before living expenses and additional cost of living expenses.

The average rent in Baton Rouge is currently >$1k per month.

LSU likely costs closer to $100k for 4 years.

In the 1970s, my dad probably went to college at LSU for less than $10k total.

Even adjusting for inflation, that is completely out of alignment.

Talk about financially burdensome when you get out of college with an engineering degree and $100k in debt from a state school.
This post was edited on 8/21/22 at 10:18 am
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 8/21/22 at 10:16 am to
Hey Vulcan man.

I cited actual examples, specific ones.

State schools are cheaper.

An engineering degree from Tech is worth a hell of a lot more than a humanities degree from Sewanee.

You can choose to take on less debt and to find a degree that sells in the marketplace. I did.

Is it more expensive today? Sure.
Posted by sawtooth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2017
3588 posts
Posted on 8/21/22 at 10:18 am to
Why are you upset with the Boomers for rising college costs? At what point do you direct your anger at the government and the colleges? You can’t drive through LSU without seeing some type of new construction. How much did that lazy river cost? We didn’t even have a student recreational center when I was there but somehow we managed to get a degree.

More of the under 30 crowd voted for Biden than Trump. Do you really think he is going to improve the situation?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
35782 posts
Posted on 8/21/22 at 10:19 am to
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State schools are cheaper.



That's like saying Rolls Royce is cheaper than Ferrari. They're both still absudtglu expensive
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 8/21/22 at 10:20 am to
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There were also personal circumstances in those first years that cost me a couple of hundred grand. I’m betting that evened the field a bit.



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It didn't compared to millennials


It’s about $500,000 in today’s dollars. Are you seriously going to tell me that I had a half million advantage over millennials? bullshite.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463877 posts
Posted on 8/21/22 at 10:20 am to
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Why are you upset with the Boomers for rising college costs?


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At what point do you direct your anger at the government and the colleges?


Which generation runs both the government and colleges, and has for 20+ years?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76464 posts
Posted on 8/21/22 at 10:20 am to
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That's like saying Rolls Royce is cheaper than Ferrari. They're both still absudtglu expensive
Exactly.

You aren’t $300k in debt, but $100k is still terrible at the start of your career.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463877 posts
Posted on 8/21/22 at 10:22 am to
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Are you seriously going to tell me that I had a half million advantage over millennials? bullshite.

Housing advantages alone puts the advantage well into 6-figures.

College is high 5-figures.

This is before we even mention income/advancement. This is just discussing everyday expenses.

Were you able to send your kids to public schools?
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 8/21/22 at 10:22 am to
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That's like saying Rolls Royce is cheaper than Ferrari. They're both still absudtglu expensive


It’s more like saying a Ford van is cheaper than a Mercedes van.

If you want to make money in the delivery business, buy the Ford.

If you borrowed a shite ton to buy the Mercedes without thinking through how you’d use it, I’d say some of that (maybe not all) is on you.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76464 posts
Posted on 8/21/22 at 10:22 am to
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Which generation runs both the government and colleges, and has for 20+ years?
It isn’t even that.

The idea that “everyone should go to college” started with the boomers and their kids.

Once they happened, the loans started and the prices ballooned.
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