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re: Quiet Quitting? Well that a new term.

Posted on 8/20/22 at 10:31 pm to
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 10:31 pm to
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If you were breathing you had access. I'm sure some had more access, but that's not the point, is it?


It’s just not true. But keep on blaming me for your failure if that makes you happy.
Posted by sawtooth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2017
3588 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 10:31 pm to
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To be fair, not just millennials got hit in 2008 and again in present day.


My grandparents lived through the Great Depression and not once did I hear them complain about how hard they had it.

What a sorry generation.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
35794 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 10:32 pm to
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as a zillenial myself - I find the milllenials were ‘quietly quitting’ before Covid -maybe the financial ruin’ of 2008 caused it but those that I supervised pre-Covid weren’t giving their all and didn’t care


I think its the fact that productivity and earnings went through the roof since around 2000, but there's really been no material change to working conditions in that time. The work from home boom happened due to covid but many companies wanted to lower wages if you moved to a lower cost of living area. After not keeping wages up with COL for the last 30 years.

Why would you give extra effort when there's very, very little incentive?
Posted by sawtooth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2017
3588 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 10:32 pm to
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You've got 20 years on me and I'll probably pass you in savings within the next 5 or so years. Sheesh.


Cool. Enjoy your well earned retirement.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
68741 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 10:34 pm to
At 50 you presumably had investments in 2008 that took a hit and again most recently. I was just giving some context in your defense.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76464 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 10:35 pm to
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Gee. I had some bad luck. Think I’ll quit.
Bad luck?

Buddy, the millennial generation has been hammered so thoroughly that they are behind every generation that has existed since the creation of the USA at this point in their lives.

I posted that stat earlier.

They are the only generation which has obtained less wealth than the one before them.
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It galls me because some of us started out way behind where the average millennial is, even factoring in the “setbacks” they blame on others.


Your argument would hold water if you started way behind, gained wealth, and then had it wiped out, then tried your best to gain wealth again, only to have it wiped out again.

The entire workforce is jaded as hell, and rightfully so.
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I saw far less qualified people advance because of connections or networks never available to me. Think that’s fair?
Did you have all of your wealth and job prospects wiped out on the whim of outside forces, not hard work, random outside financial forces, two times in the initial years of your career?

No, you didn’t.
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By millennial logic, I should have blamed the system and quit. That never crossed my mind.
As if being passed up for promotion is equatable to 2008 and the pandemic.


This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 10:37 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40000 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 10:35 pm to
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If I only had 1.6MM in assets at 50


That's really what sawtooth has?
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
12522 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 10:37 pm to
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Their prospects of high advancement are almost 0 because of this

The youngest boomer is now 58 going on 59 years old.

No opportunity for advancement my arse.

Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
57767 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 10:37 pm to
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Why would you give extra effort when there's very, very little incentive?

Integrity
Posted by sawtooth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2017
3588 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 10:37 pm to
That’s it. Times are tough at the ole Sawtooth resident.

I’m retiring at 55. Maybe you can toss some change my way when I’m picking up cans.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76464 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 10:38 pm to
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To be fair, not just millennials got hit in 2008 and again in present day.
Agreed, but this wasn’t simply a loss in investments or retirement.

This was the start of what is supposed to be a generation’s prime working years.
Posted by sawtooth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2017
3588 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 10:39 pm to
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Buddy, the millennial generation has been hammered so thoroughly that they are behind every generation that has existed since the creation of the USA at this point in their lives.


Those living through the Great Depression had it much worse. We have some of the fattest “poor” people in the world.

Drama Queen
Posted by SaintsTiger
1,000,000 Posts
Member since Oct 2014
1883 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 10:40 pm to
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Despite that blessing, I still recognize how daunting the situation is for housing among other things, and I make significantly more than the average. You keep posting the “18% APR” thing and I would trade anything for the housing market you had in the 80s. If I, in medicine, am completely put off by the housing market, the majority of my generation is fricked.


Savings accounts paid us a decent interest rate then too. Made saving for a house much easier.
Posted by sawtooth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2017
3588 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 10:41 pm to
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The entire workforce is jaded as hell, and rightfully so


I’m quite happy with my job. I have been with the same company for 25 years.

Maybe not the “entire” workforce.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40000 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 10:42 pm to
So what do you project yourself to have in savings in 5 years?


This is mindblowing to me.
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9508 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 10:42 pm to
Anecdotes don’t disprove the macro trends.

You refuse to get it. Lmaoo.
Posted by sawtooth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2017
3588 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 10:43 pm to
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Did you have all of your wealth and job prospects wiped out on the whim of outside forces, not hard work, random outside financial forces, two times in the initial years of your career?


Sounds like you make poor financial decisions.

Shame.
Posted by sawtooth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2017
3588 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 10:44 pm to
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So what do you project yourself to have in savings in 5 years?


Well according to two financial advisors I will have enough.

Sounds good to me.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76464 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 10:44 pm to


Facts not feelings there, progressive.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76464 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 10:46 pm to
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Sounds like you make poor financial decisions.
You must have dementia.

I already stated that I am in medicine.

I am fine.
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