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re: Quiet Quitting? Well that a new term.

Posted on 8/20/22 at 9:20 pm to
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 9:20 pm to
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It’s easy in hindsight to say that millennials should have bought a home when prices were depressed in the aftermath of the 2008 financial crisis. But even then, millennials — the oldest of whom were around 27 years old — were saddled with debt and seeking jobs in an unforgiving market. Both the 2008 recession as well as Covid-19 struck at critical times in their developing careers.
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Working millennials were saddled with more student debt than previous generations and less money to pay for it when Lehman Brothers went bankrupt.
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Median incomes fell by 3.6% in 2008, the largest single-year drop since 1967, according to the Economic Policy Institute, and continued to drop until 2012 on an inflation-adjusted basis.
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According to economic data from the New York Federal Reserve Bank, consumers ages 18 to 29 had a debt balance totaling $1.01 trillion in 2007; student loans accounted for $211 billion of that debt, which was $40 billion more than those aged 30 to 39.

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Millennials already in the workforce experienced widespread job losses the following year as the overall employment level for those considered in the prime working age (those aged 25 to 54) fell by 2.2 million, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. With the labor market constricted, millennials fresh out of college had limited job prospects and little bargaining power, sometimes competing with more experienced workers for entry-level roles.
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As many millennials reached the age that their parents may have started looking into homeownership, the Great Recession dug in and mortgage rates shot up above 6%. The ripple effects of the financial crisis were felt long after as median household incomes continued to drop, reaching their lowest in 2012 at $57,623. That only compounded as home values and costs of living bounced back.
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Now, Americans are paying more than ever to own a home: an average single-family home was valued around $383,000 as of February, according to Zillow. First-time homebuyers, many of whom are millennials, are being priced out of homeownership entirely as home values jumped 20.3% in the last year alone and mortgage rates top 4%.
Here are even more actual statistics.

LINK

There are great charts in the link.

Facts over feelings.
This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 9:25 pm
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9763 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 9:21 pm to
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sawtooth


Did you choose your family of birth? Your zip code? To not be neglected or abused as a child? To not be born to a crackhead mom?

There is a ton of things outside your control that contribute to your "success" or "failure" in life.

Being born in the right era to capitalize on the fortunate circumstances is luck.

You can keep soying out but that is reality.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 9:22 pm to
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bullshite you paid $2 mill into Medicare.


Do you even time value of money, baw?

If you take the income stream and give me a 3.5% interest rate, I’m well over that. And it’ll be worse when I actually retire.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
70936 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 9:22 pm to
Giving him the benefit of being a business owner and covering both sides, he has paid himself over $60,000,000 in his career.
Posted by jclem11
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Member since Nov 2011
9763 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 9:23 pm to
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JudgeHolden


Receipts or shut the frick up.

A couple of us have posted our stats and you continue talking out your arse.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 9:23 pm to
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Giving him the benefit of being a business owner and covering both sides, he has paid himself over $60,000,000 in his career.


No wonder y’all are having trouble. Y’all don’t understand basic finance.
Posted by PassingThrough
Member since Sep 2021
2622 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 9:23 pm to
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when they told me to invest young.



Well, it is a damn good thing you weren't young around say 2008... And you weren't too old to not have time to recover somewhat before you were retirement age. Also you are retiring at 55 with only a few million in assets? You best hope you don't live too long or have big time medical problems.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 9:25 pm to
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jclem11


Neither I nor the world owes you a goddamn thing. Believe it or not. I DGAF.
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9763 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 9:26 pm to
Tell me the Medicare tax rate without looking it up.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 9:27 pm to
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mortgage rates top 4%.


Cry me a motherfricking river.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 9:27 pm to
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There are great charts in the link


There's no chart for gumption and boot strappin' and stick-to-it-tivity, son.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 9:27 pm to
1.45% Medicare tax on the first $200,000 of wages ($250,000 for joint returns; $125,000 for married taxpayers filing a separate return), plus
2.35% Medicare tax (regular 1.45% Medicare tax plus 0.9% additional Medicare tax) on all wages in excess of $200,000 ($250,000 for joint returns; $125,000 for married taxpayers filing a separate return).

You don’t pay out of Medicare, unlike SS. The rates actually get higher as you make more.
This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 9:31 pm
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 9:29 pm to
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Believe it or not. I DGAF.


This clearly means a lot to you. You wear "I started with nothing and made it and got no damn help" as a badge of honor.

Even if it's basically bull plop.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64341 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 9:32 pm to
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This clearly means a lot to you. You wear "I started with nothing and made it and got no damn help" as a badge of honor.

Even if it's basically bull plop.




Boomers wish they had the clout their parents had, who grew up during the great depression and fought in WW2. You can see they truly believe they're cut from that same cloth in the way they describe themselves and their accomplishments.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77203 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 9:33 pm to
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Cry me a motherfricking river.
Oooohhh…you had your 18% APR with house prices being less than 1/3 of what they are now (adjusted for inflation) and with home price increase rate and income increase rate being similar.

You had it so tough.



I would take that setup any day of the week.

That whole 18% thing is the easiest concept yo dismantle.

Once again, you have no facts to post, just your meme feelings.
This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 9:40 pm
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9763 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 9:34 pm to
Good job copy pasting chief. You 100% had to google that.

There is no damn way you have made the $10s of million necessary to get to your valuation.

You are just straight up lying dude.

Rich people in that category are not shite posting on the internet on a Saturday night.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
70936 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 9:36 pm to
So how much do you believe you've contributed that, if you were allowed to invest biweekly for 40 years, would net you $6mm? What rate are you assuming on the return?
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 9:36 pm to
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This clearly means a lot to you.


Well.

It’s disappointing, honestly.

I’ve effed up a lot of shite in my life. I just never blamed my parents or grandparents for it.

Apparently, according to y’all, I was born with an oro crassum (an organ that shits gold) because I was at the tail end of the boomers. Sure didn’t feel like that when I was busting my arse.

I’m glad my kids aren’t whining about this.
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9763 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 9:37 pm to
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0.9% additional Medicare tax


This did not until 2013. We can effectively ignore that in our analysis.

The numbers show you are just straight up full of shite.

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You don’t pay out of Medicare, unlike SS. The rates actually get higher as you make more.


You are looking for cap, which funny enough is all you have been doing in this thread, capping.
This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 9:38 pm
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 9:37 pm to
2 is at 3 percent. You do the math.

I was saying 6 with pretax gains, to be clear.
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