re: Quiet Quitting? Well that a new term.

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You ever heard of collective bargaining

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You seen a lot of unions around these days?

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What is your definition of affording it? Thats going to differ between employer and employee. Of course it can be "afforded", but at some point as a business owner you do need to turn a profit.

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Of course, but that's the root of this debate. The owner knows what they are pulling out; the employees don't. So when they owner says they can't afford it, does that mean they will literally go under, or does it mean that they don't get to bump their take home $50k this year to pay for the bathroom reno their spouse wants, or does it mean they don't get to bump their take home $500k? More? Somewhere between?

Employers obviously have every right to make every dollar they can. Employees have the right to fight and claw for every dollar they can. For reasons I can't fathom, the former is considered being a good businessman while the latter is considered being entitled.

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If there’s a profit then a percentage should go to the employees at the end of the month as a “bonus” to their base salary. They helped the business turn a profit so they should benefit some from it.

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Absolutely, for my production based staff that is exactly the case and those number are printed for them.

If you aren't producing above your employee cost then I'd lose money giving you even more.

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Do you really not see how fricked up it is that the employer gets to work with 100% accurate information while the employee has to guess and hope for the best?

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Well one takes all the risks, pays for and owns those numbers, and is responsible for everything at the end of the day.

The other just has to show up and do the bare minimum

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It’s 10% of the workforce and dropping.

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So 10% is symmetrical. You answered your own question

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And the employee owns their labor. You don't.

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And if they want the best employees who will do a good job and stay loyal, they better be prepared to pay well for that labor.

Hmmm… sounds a lot like capitalism. You want the best? You’re going to have to pay for it.

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So when they quit, don't cry about their being entitled; simply acknowledge that you played your hand and lost.

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I’m not. I’d respect you more if you drug that job up. But you’re not talking about quitting.

Your talking about doing the minimum to keep the job then bitching about how hard life is.

Will the so called companies give customers more than what they paid for. If the employee is doing what he is being paid for, what’s the problem?

You are only answerable to your family. You need to think off your self as a business and do what is right for you. The company will not keep you if they are not doing well

This happens because people have been working beyond their means but they don’t get recognized or don’t get bonus.

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So 10% is symmetrical. You answered your own question

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If you believe that unions still have that kind of leverage, then I guess.

Exxon locked em out at Baytown, and the union caved.

Public money per student... That is a fascinating ratio. Maybe break it down into the different expenditures. Lots of over paid administors lot of teachers paying for their own shite. There are all kinds of factors that go into this. What I see is inefficiency and poor leadership. Too much pork. Does Korea have bus drivers. Do they drive 50 miles a day? What are their teacher's requirements? How educated are they? Because in America teacher is right up there with server

Who creates these policies and budgets? Boomers. The ROI is clearly not good and that's cause of bloated boomers