re: Question for the OT Fitness Gurus

Also, if you want to get ripped/lean and keep your cardio, look into HIIT or Tabata training.

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Update and don't forget to flex

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I know a jacked dude at work that can't hardly keep his breath because he doesn't do any cardiovascular work at all

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I know a...

Ultimate bro logic....

That guy must pretty special to be able to lift heavy objects while shutting off his heart and peripheral vasculature. Do you really think that your cardiovascular system is not working while lifting heavy things??

I have researched this topic extensively from the perspective of maximizing returns on minimal investment. As one gets older emphasis is placed on the least amount of effort and time needed to achieve maximal results. That being said:


The most efficient way to train the human body is via resistence training. 2 to 3 days per week in the unenhanced human


Some cardio is not bad in most folks (if being performed recreationally or in sport to enjoy being outside or in nature). There is data showing right sided heart failure, dysrythmias, and hormonal irregularities (similar to people enduring chronic stress) in endurance athletes. The problem is that most folks engaged in cardio have the same psychological traits that they loath in the meathead (OCD, vanity) leading them to overtrain (I personally loath both groups).

Cardio folks are toiling under the pretense that they are healthy than "meatheads". For every juiced up meathead struggling to breath (likely unhealthy for a multitude of confounding factors), I can show you a 160 hypogonad man who is destroying his joints daily via repetitive subthreshold exertion. The acceptance of this practice is mainly due to marketing. If that's what your into, I have some ortho colleagues that would love to take your money some day ( as does Nike).

If you do not believe me, do your own research and draw your own conclusions, bro.....

A man who speaks in science and drinks ethanol from the carboy.

A man after my own heart

You will get no argument from me regarding the ineffectiveness of traditional bodybuilding routines

Yoga and breathing is also an important piece. Most serious strength athletes use the principles when lifting heavy things..

Basic /simple Multi joint movements. Regimens are outlined below

Body by Science -McGuff
4 hour body
Heavy Duty- Mentzer


They outline minimalist protocols that the average person would benefit from if the stimulus is applied properly.

I need mouton to weigh in in order to form an opinion

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I know a...

Ultimate bro logic....

That guy must pretty special to be able to lift heavy objects while shutting off his heart and peripheral vasculature. Do you really think that your cardiovascular system is not working while lifting heavy things??

I have researched this topic extensively from the perspective of maximizing returns on minimal investment. As one gets older emphasis is placed on the least amount of effort and time needed to achieve maximal results. That being said:


The most efficient way to train the human body is via resistence training. 2 to 3 days per week in the unenhanced human


Some cardio is not bad in most folks (if being performed recreationally or in sport to enjoy being outside or in nature). There is data showing right sided heart failure, dysrythmias, and hormonal irregularities (similar to people enduring chronic stress) in endurance athletes. The problem is that most folks engaged in cardio have the same psychological traits that they loath in the meathead (OCD, vanity) leading them to overtrain (I personally loath both groups).

Cardio folks are toiling under the pretense that they are healthy than "meatheads". For every juiced up meathead struggling to breath (likely unhealthy for a multitude of confounding factors), I can show you a 160 hypogonad man who is destroying his joints daily via repetitive subthreshold exertion. The acceptance of this practice is mainly due to marketing. If that's what your into, I have some ortho colleagues that would love to take your money some day ( as does Nike).

If you do not believe me, do your own research and draw your own conclusions, bro.....

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You are a tard. He could do some occasional slow miles to get a little better. He loses breath and huffs and puffs just moving cardboard boxes. Not on roids, eats healthy. There is a middle ground. Instead you went idiot mode. Not surprising.

There is middle ground. See the body of my post

-Some cardio is not bad in most folks (if being performed recreationally or in sport to enjoy being outside or in nature).

You went ad hominem, bro. Your opinion will be noted in the TD hall of records

Little piece of advice, do not go through life limiting your view of complex things to oversimplified snapshots of what you see/perceive to be true. I have reasearched my views through YEARS of reviewing information from a multitude of souces and first hand experience with athletes/ patients. All the while I am looking for a better / more efficient way to do things (even if that means contradicting my current views in the future should a better way present itself) and so should you.

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It all depends on what your goals are. If you want to train for aesthetics lots of isolation work is the way to go, if strength is your goal train like a powerlifter, if you want to look gaunt do lots of long distance/steady state cardio and if you want to ruin your shoulders do Crossfit. smiley: wink Cardio is good for the heart but overall strength-training will get you fit. My goal is to look like athlete so I train like one and incorporate lots compound lifts and core/posterior chain work, with 20 mins of HIIT training 3-4 times a week. Years ago an NFL agent friend got me into Athlete's Performance LINK in Tempe, AZ (now EXOS), where many NFL, MLB and future NFL players preparing for the NFL Combine train. I learned more there in those couple of months than I had in 20+ years of training for athletics and got in the best shape of my life and have maintained it pretty well. I recall Brady Quinn training one time and doing dumbbell curls- one of the trainers came and knocked them out of his hand and said "I never want to see you do those here again, they won't make you become a better NFL QB". Again, if aesthetics are your primary goal knock yourself out.

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I agree with you. My above revs were general for the average person

I personally train diversely using a combo of HIIT and low rep strength training
I use Kettlebell training for my "cardio"

I do very limited traditional cardio unless playing sports with my kids/coaching/ hiking