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Question for states where funding follows the student whether public or private (K-12)

Posted on 3/5/24 at 2:45 pm
Posted by thadcastle
Member since Dec 2019
2611 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 2:45 pm
Did you find that the private school prices went up in your area or did they go down after this law was implemented? It is on the ballot in Texas this year. I posted on the Poli board but no one seems interested in the topic since it isn't TDS or sky screaming.
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 2:53 pm
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42392 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 2:50 pm to
I have no idea what you are talking about.

Tulane is about the only real private school in Louisiana and it's mostly kids coming from the northeast that can't get into ivy league schools.
The students that are local are usually going to Tulane on full scholarships.

Or are you talking about private high schools which are prevalent in places like Baton Rouge, most have stayed relatively the same price over time.
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 2:52 pm
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
4801 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 2:51 pm to
I think he means private k-12
Posted by thadcastle
Member since Dec 2019
2611 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 3:03 pm to
quote:

Or are you talking about private high schools which are prevalent in places like Baton Rouge, most have stayed relatively the same price over time.


Does LA have a similar program? I thought it was only Arkansas and Florida in the south that had similar programs.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48296 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 3:05 pm to
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Does LA have a similar program?


Not yet, but a bill is in the House right now.
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
9713 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

Did you find that the private school prices went up in your area or did they go down after this law was implemented? It is on the ballot in Texas this year. I posted on the Poli board but no one seems interested in the topic since it isn't TDS or sky screaming.


I'm sure they probably do, but I'd be surprised if it was 1 for 1. I bet what happens is more for profit schools pop up.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69263 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 3:07 pm to
The law of supply and demand tells us that if the price of private schooling rises due to an increase in demand, it will induce market entry of new suppliers, who want to capture the supernormal profits
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31064 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 3:12 pm to
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I have no idea what you are talking about.


He's talking about school choice. Libs, progs, and the teachers unions hate it because it makes them accountable and creates competition that benefits students...two things they hate with a passion.
Posted by SRV
Banging in The Rock
Member since Nov 2021
1183 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 3:44 pm to
quote:

Did you find that the private school prices went up in your area or did they go down after this law was implemented?


Some here are treating it as a raise, by raising tuition, some are taking it as full tuition….with no additional cost to the parents. Probably depends a lot on how high the tuition is, in the first place.

Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32394 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 3:53 pm to
How does this work? I’m not sure how much a typical student “costs” at a public school. For example, the schools that we are looking at will cost around 8k per year for private Catholic school. Are public school families getting 4k, 6k, 8k to apply towards schooling? Essentially just wondering if A. it would be enough to even pay for private school, and B. would these schools even accept them anyway (it doesn’t appear that there is a lack of students attending the schools we are looking at, and I don’t think they’d take a random child over a parishioner’s child).

ETA: looks like Arkansas families get $6,614 in year 1.
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 4:07 pm
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
8586 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 4:53 pm to
quote:

bet what happens is more for profit schools pop up.



This is basically what happened in Arizona, a ton of charter schools popped up to make a profit. And a good portion of them are owned by the politicians who passed the school choice bills. With a good portion of the school budgets going straight into their pockets.
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
16905 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 5:35 pm to
Our private school increases every year… for “blah blah blah”. Then also holding their hand out every month for fundraisers and more money. I’ve been known to donate 1 penny when they try to guilt you saying if everyone in the class donates, kids will get a pizza party or something
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 5:38 pm
Posted by Zakatak
Member since Nov 2011
195 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 6:55 pm to
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Not yet, but a bill is in the House right now.


Any more details on this? I tried googling without much luck.
Posted by Hank R Hill
Arlen,TX
Member since Jan 2017
462 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 8:11 pm to
Florida just passed a law where the funds follow the student even for home schooling. Enrollment in our county and surrounding ones has dropped slightly since this passed. Seems the travel ball moms are home schooling Paxton and Jaxon and using the $8000 for each kid to pay for hotel rooms and other travel ball related expenses
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
1982 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:37 pm to

Is this public, private, and parochial? Are they allowing public funds to be used for religious education? I can’t imagine people would support public funds being used to have children learn about the Koran all day.
I’d be for public funds being applied to private schools, but if families insist on having their children diddled by the Bishop at St. Strokemeoff that should be on their dime.
Personally, I’d be for eliminating all public funding for schools and just give each parent x amount of dollars per year to invest in the education of their choosing.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37461 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:41 pm to
I know we use the term slippery slope a lot on this website and many times in jest, but private schools accepting public funds specifically to allow students to attend said schools truly is a slippery slope in my opinion.

Once you start allowing this, unless there are exceptionally strict guard rails, the state will eventually excert influence on curriculum. Essentially destroying a significant portion of why parents send their kids to private schools. Sounds great for public schools, but bad for private, parochial schools.
This post was edited on 3/6/24 at 3:32 am
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
1982 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:41 pm to
quote:

For example, the schools that we are looking at will cost around 8k per year for private Catholic school. Are public school families getting 4k, 6k, 8k to apply towards schooling?


I was always under the impression that private schools were super expensive and that that religious schools are super cheap. The private schools near where most of my family lives start at about $30k per year and can easily get to $80k for HS.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32394 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:51 pm to
quote:

I was always under the impression that private schools were super expensive and that that religious schools are super cheap. The private schools near where most of my family lives start at about $30k per year and can easily get to $80k for HS.

I don’t have an answer to this, other than to say that the vast majority of private schools in Louisiana are religion based. And from what I’ve seen most are around the 8-12k range. There are outliers that are more expensive.
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
1982 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:31 pm to
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don’t have an answer to this, other than to say that the vast majority of private schools in Louisiana are religion based

My understanding of this is faith based schools are classified as parochial rather than private. The major distinction is that private schools are required to meet all the state requirements of public schools where parochial schools don’t have to meet these requirements because of freedom of religion reasons. Private school teachers have to be certified where in parochial schools such as catholic schools nuns, priests, and parishioners can teach students. Parochial schools don’t have to meet the same standards as private and public schools.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6403 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:43 pm to
quote:

private schools were super expensive and that that religious schools are super cheap


I think it depends on the state. Catholic schools in Baton Rouge seem to cost 2/3 of what I pay in property taxes (my kids are not Catholic, and I'd still be paying property taxes and income taxes in LA anyway.)

Sending my kids to a Jewish school in Houston would cost 15+ a year.

I'm not sure how old your kids are, but unless you're in an absolutely shite school, it's not worth it. The school my kid was in last year of elementary school had 10% of the class in special ed that were mainstreamed and beating themselves about the head, in the middle of events, etc. They were all boys.

The more affluent the parents, the more f$*@ed up the kids seem to end up, especially when you have anxious moms, boys, and iPads.
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