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Posted on 8/10/20 at 8:49 am to
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
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Posted on 8/10/20 at 8:49 am to
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Can someone give me a real-world problem that you have faced while working as an industrial engineer?


When will I retire?
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 8:52 am to
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“industrial engineers solve problems with practical solutions”
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Yet I cannot find a specific example of a problem/solution that they would encounter on the job.
Well for starters, there's one right there. While engineers are extremely intelligent, they seem to rest their laurels on that and just go with it. When in fact, there are times that it may make the most sense of any options (on paper) and it may be the most logical (on paper) - yet not everything works so simply like that. Especially when you have several factors at play (unexpected chemical reactions, type of metal involved, ambient temperature, moisture and humidity, the rates you're running at, etc.) This is a never ending feud between any Run Plant engineer and operations. That's why I made the joke I made earlier. There's your problem. The solution is to stop before you make a decision, and discuss with all parties involved in the process (including and especially operators who have an inside view). Work as a team, and not as a wannabe drill sergeant who refuses to take input.

Or, don't do that and create more problems and double/triple the work.
This post was edited on 8/10/20 at 8:53 am
Posted by Booskee
Assumption Parish
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 8/10/20 at 8:53 am to
It seems like an IE degree would be best suited for those who eventually want to be entrepreneurs then, wouldn’t it? They’d be able to assess the risk/reward as it pertains to running their own business.
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
7951 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 8:53 am to
Engineers I know make fun of IEs.
Call it "Imaginary Engineering".
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 8/10/20 at 8:54 am to
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This is a never ending feud between any Run Plant engineer and operations.


I'm always trying take input from operations because they will be the guys who have to deal with the design/operation on a daily basis.

If you don't, you will have a bunch of operators who hate your guts.
Posted by bigblake
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Posted on 8/10/20 at 8:55 am to
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Posted by bigblake
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Posted on 8/10/20 at 8:57 am to
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Posted by Booskee
Assumption Parish
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 8/10/20 at 8:59 am to
Good stuff, thanks
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:01 am to
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I'm always trying take input from operations because they will be the guys who have to deal with the design/operation on a daily basis.

If you don't, you will have a bunch of operators who hate your guts.

Well it's not just that, I've seen engineers get run off and/or reassigned because they were stubborn and didn't do what you said. They pushed back at everything that operations brought up, and the end result was out of spec product that we ended up selling at a discounted rate just to get it out of our storage tanks. And the residual messed with new product going in the tanks for months.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:04 am to
My side job is industrial engineering to supplement my windshield job income.

quote:

Can someone give me a real-world problem that you have faced while working as an industrial engineer?



You have to be synergistic.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Member since Aug 2003
48914 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:05 am to
Now, if you have a plant that never gives you comments on the design, it’s tough; especially when they complain after the installation.

Where were these comments during the early design and, more importantly, the IFA review?
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
36242 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:10 am to
Yeah, I heard that a lot in college. The reality is that companies value industrial engineers because they are good at big picture solutions, efficiency, streamlining, and understanding enough of the technical side and the business side to bring both together. I’m glad I didn’t let the jerks make me feel like I wasn’t getting a real engineering degree I have no regrets.
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
36242 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:12 am to
There are a lot of IE CEOs. Tim Cook is probably one of the most currently famous IEs.
This post was edited on 8/10/20 at 9:12 am
Posted by Booskee
Assumption Parish
Member since Aug 2020
71 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:27 am to
How was the workload for the degree? Would full-time coursework be possible with a full-time job?
Posted by Yukon7
Louisiana
Member since May 2018
618 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:30 am to
I have an IE degree. My current job required it. But over the years i have come to understand it more. IE is basically everything covered under one umbrella. You know a little bit of each engineering discipline to understand it but not actually do it. I can understand, problem solve, support other engineers. But i cant actually do calculations and sign off on anything.

Because of this broad learning spectrum, its pretty easy to take an IE and make them a supervisor, operator, CEO, etc. Most that i know do some kind of Quality Assurance, Project oversight.

I do metallurgical failure analysis and quality assurance for oilfield.
Posted by Booskee
Assumption Parish
Member since Aug 2020
71 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:32 am to
Interesting. Now I’m getting a better grasp of what the job entails.
Posted by Animal
Member since Dec 2017
4341 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:45 am to
I work as an IE in a manufacturing facility. While what I am used for has changed over the years mostly my focus has been on finding processes improvements to increase productivity and/or methods to reduce our cost to manufacture product. Another major focus is quoting new business/processes. Also, helping management identify and explain cost drivers.

Somehow I have also been the role of maintaining our ERP system (Oracle).
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
36242 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:49 am to
I think it would be very difficult to accomplish that with a full-time job. It might be one of the “easier” engineering degrees, but it does require a lot of time and study.
Posted by Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
Between Your Ears
Member since Aug 2005
3945 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:52 am to
I don't know exactly what they do but......

quote:

IE = Imaginary Engineer


I know for a fact they get pissed off when the above is mentioned.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138868 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:53 am to
IEs organize desks
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