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re: Question about Yucatan and Maya surnames
Posted on 10/17/23 at 10:27 am to Antoninus
Posted on 10/17/23 at 10:27 am to Antoninus
quote:
I was trying to find unique but realistic names for several characters in a short story I am writing, set in part in the Yucatan peninsula.
let's talk more about what you're writing... what's the story about?
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Posted on 10/17/23 at 10:33 am to tigernurse
quote:I was simplifying. The Yucatan part is several chapters of what will eventually be an alternate history in which Texas (the original Republic, all the way north to southern Wyoming), the Rio Grande Republic (modern Coahuila, Nuevo Leon and Tamualipas), Yucatan (modern Campeche, Yucatan and Quintana Roo), and Central America (modern Panama and Costa Rica) all remain independent countries in the 1850s. Basically, history plays out differently because Antonio Lopez de Santa Ana does not retain power in Mexico after his defeat in Texas at San Jacinto.
let's talk more about what you're writing... what's the story about?
This post was edited on 10/17/23 at 10:35 am
Posted on 10/17/23 at 10:38 am to Antoninus
What names did you go with?
Posted on 10/17/23 at 10:41 am to SidetrackSilvera
quote:The main Maya characters are Silvano Pech and Rogelio Canúl.
What names did you go with?
Real world historical character Miguel Barbachano Terrazo plays a big role as well.
This post was edited on 10/17/23 at 10:45 am
Posted on 10/17/23 at 10:41 am to OysterPoBoy
Mayan Angeloo 
Posted on 10/17/23 at 10:48 am to Antoninus
quote:
I was simplifying. The Yucatan part is several chapters of what will eventually be an alternate history in which Texas (the original Republic, all the way north to southern Wyoming), the Rio Grande Republic (modern Coahuila, Nuevo Leon and Tamualipas), Yucatan (modern Campeche, Yucatan and Quintana Roo), and Central America (modern Panama and Costa Rica) all remain independent countries in the 1850s. Basically, history plays out differently because Antonio Lopez de Santa Ana does not retain power in Mexico after his defeat in Texas at San Jacinto.
but how will you tie all this up into a grumpy/sunshine happily ever after with an hot hockey player trope?
Posted on 10/17/23 at 10:48 am to Antoninus
Haven't we read enough books about Miguel Barbachano Terrazo?
Posted on 10/17/23 at 10:49 am to 0x15E
quote:
We’re not going to help you write your term paper, Stephen.
That's ChatGPT's job.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 10:55 am to tigernurse
quote:
but how will you tie all this up into a grumpy/sunshine happily ever after with an hot hockey player trope?
Posted on 10/17/23 at 10:59 am to Antoninus
That was played to the death - fun times
Posted on 10/17/23 at 11:22 am to Antoninus
My FIL is from Dzidzantun. He is an Ojeda-Montolvo, for what it’s worth.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 11:23 am to 0x15E
quote:
We’re not going to help you write your term paper, Stephen.
Its Hank.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 11:27 am to Bamafig
quote:That is actually very interesting. I would love to work some real local family names into the story. I am assuming the naming convention in Yucatan is like most of Mexico, meaning that "Ojeda" is from his father's family and "Montolvo" is from his mother's family.
My FIL is from Dzidzantun. He is an Ojeda-Montolvo, for what it’s worth
Do you know the names of his parents and grandparents? "Montolvo" is not a name that I've run across, and I am really trying to use unique names so that the characters don't get confusing. Seventy-five different Castros and Carballos would make the brain spin.
I'll add "Montolvo" to my list of potential character surnames, if I have your permission. I've seen "Montalvo" but not "Montolvo."
This post was edited on 10/17/23 at 11:39 am
Posted on 10/17/23 at 11:31 am to Antoninus
quote:
QR's top twenty have a few Maya names as well:
Chan
May
Poot
Canul
Hehehehe
Posted on 10/17/23 at 11:34 am to Antoninus
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Chan
Did not expect a name most would associate with Asian as the top surname in the Yucatan peninsula.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 11:36 am to IAmNERD
quote:It is Mayan for "snake."
Did not expect a name most would associate with Asian (Chan) as the top surname in the Yucatan peninsula.
Lots and lots of Mayan surnames are the words for various animals. BeerJeep's favorite (Poot) is a spider.
But not all. "Canul" is basically "protector." "Dzul" is basically "gentleman" or "nobleman" (Caballero in Spanish).
This post was edited on 10/17/23 at 11:42 am
Posted on 10/17/23 at 5:22 pm to Antoninus
Grandparents were Delores and Adolpho. Known to everyone as ChiChi and Tito. Aunts surnames were Santos and Viana. Couple of Maribel first names in the family. Use as you wish.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 5:39 pm to Antoninus
quote:
Dzul" is basically "gentleman" or "nobleman" (Caballero in Spanish).
A cavalier or horseman. A mounted soldier. A knight.
The answer to your overall question may be just that area has tried to keep its ancestral ties. Where others basically changed names to the Spanish meaning.
People did that in the US as well. Maybe changing like an Italian name to be phonetically correct in english. Or just the way it was recorded by English speakers hearing the name.
This post was edited on 10/17/23 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 10/17/23 at 5:42 pm to Bamafig
gracias.
Viano is Galician (& Portuguese), consistent with what I said before.
Viano is Galician (& Portuguese), consistent with what I said before.
This post was edited on 10/17/23 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 10/17/23 at 6:00 pm to Antoninus
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