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Posted on 6/14/19 at 12:29 pm
Posted by dallastiger55
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 12:29 pm
Stumbled across a random fact today about Birmingham. I never knew that it was 71% Black and only 28% White. I know its only the city limits, but has it always been this way and how did it get that way?


Just curious. Ive only been a few times when I was kid and never noticed.

TIA
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 12:30 pm to
White flight to the burbs. My wife's parents were part of it.
Posted by Michael Hayes
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 12:31 pm to
Won"t you paint me a Birmingham....white
Posted by The Mick
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 12:31 pm to
Saban
Posted by 805tiger
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 12:32 pm to
It switched over from white to black in the 70's.
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

I know its only the city limits, but has it always been this way and how did it get that way?


Integration.

There's a reason there are a dozen plus suburbs right next to the city.

ETA: I imagine the only pre-integration municipality was Mountain Brook (1942 I believe), and that was wealthy folks making their own little enclave on the mountain.
This post was edited on 6/14/19 at 12:35 pm
Posted by TheHarahanian
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 12:33 pm to

Look at Memphis, Jackson, Montgomery, etc.
Posted by CaptainPanic
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 12:34 pm to
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White flight to the burbs. My wife's parents were part of it.
They've made a lot of progress gentrifying, but they have a long way to go.

I think it is closer to like 60% black & 35% white now.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 12:37 pm to
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They've made a lot of progress gentrifying, but they have a long way to go. 

I think it is closer to like 60% black & 35% white now

Seems like they've done a decent job with downtown but the city itself has still lost over 30k in the 2000s. I'd guess most of that to the surrounding suburbs.
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 12:38 pm to
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Seems like they've done a decent job with downtown but the city itself has still lost over 30k in the 2000s. I'd guess most of that to the surrounding suburbs.



Unless you are single or DINK, there is no reason to live within the city proper.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 12:41 pm to
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Unless you are single or DINK, there is no reason to live within the city proper.

My in laws eventually bailed to Vestavia Hills area from Birmingham proper
This post was edited on 6/14/19 at 5:26 pm
Posted by blzr
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 12:45 pm to
Most people live in homewood, vestavia, Hoover, or mountain brook a few minutes away
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

White flight to the burbs.



I was born in Ensley. Raised in Bluff Park.


Downtown is coming back around quickly with the developments in Lakeview, Avondale, and Regions Field. We are a long way away from areas like Ensley and Woodlawn coming back.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 12:48 pm to
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I was born in Ensley. Raised in Bluff Park. 

Yeah that whole Ensley, Wylam, Fairfield area is still pretty rough. My wife lived around there as a kid too.
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

Downtown is coming back around quickly with the developments in Lakeview, Avondale, and Regions Field. We are a long way away from areas like Ensley and Woodlawn coming back.



I went to a liquor/wine tasting somewhere off of 12th Ave N last weekend. Some old hipster lady has a really nice boutique package store right at the edge of the ghetto. The houses on the street (24th St N I think) look ripe for gentrifcation - big as hell early 1900s homes that are run down. I wonder how much a block could be bought for.
Posted by MrLarson
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 12:55 pm to
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The houses on the street (24th St N I think) look ripe for gentrifcation


The city has been tearing down houses in that area over the past 6 months - a year. There are still talks of developing the old Carraway Hospital into retail shopping and apartments. That area might already be getting expensive.
Posted by East Coast Band
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 1:03 pm to
Surprised it's 28% white.
Very few white neighborhoods that I know of in the city limits
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 1:04 pm to
The proximity to Uptown and the (potential) new stadium makes that some prime real estate.

I think the biggest growth over the next few decades will occur north and northwest of Birmingham proper, especially if they build that loop.

Really tempted to buy some lots or shite-shacks on 31N at the edge of town.
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 1:13 pm to
aside from hispters white people live in the over the mountain burbs.
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 1:13 pm to
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Very few white neighborhoods that I know of in the city limits



Southside, Forest Park, and Crestwood are all likely predominantly white. Avondale is probably getting close to being predominantly white, if it isn't already.
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