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re: Putin's Christmas letter to Trump

Posted on 12/23/16 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

What's wrong with that?


For consistency, Vlad should have gone with, "Your Flamboyantness."
Posted by AZTarheeel
Member since Feb 2015
3702 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 2:21 pm to
It is cute how libs and cucks think Russians are a greater threat to us than Muslims.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
106021 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

His Excellency?


Not common usage in this country, but it's often a form of address in diplomatic circles.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/23/16 at 3:47 pm to


This is reason #1 why we should be at the very least cordial with a non-commie russia.

You won't beat them in a hot war. They will fight until they are out of bullets and loading their babies in medieval era cannons to shoot at you.

I have known a few Russians and they are some ruthless MFers.

Better to have people like that as allies as opposed to enemies.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
135024 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

I will take a sneaky Russian over a goat fricking religious maniac who wants to cut my head off any day of the week.

At least we can reason and talk common goals with the Russians.

The other dudes just want to kill all of us. Fact.


Exactly.

The mistake many make is that they look at things from a modern American viewpoint...and really half of that is an progressive dogma dictated by the coasts.

We are a pretty temperate people, both in climate and attitude. We have a short history. In essence...we know nothing.

The Rus...for millennia they have been scraping an existence out of the frozen ground, being constantly assailed by invaders and outsiders.

They are a hard people. A strong, resilient people. A cold people.

To expect them To play the game with comparatively soft western sensibilities is folly. They are pragmatic and cunning. And history (theirs more than most) show that you should never fully trust ANY ally.

But against the Muzzie horde they are the ally we need. They are willing to get their hands dirty. They are geographically positioned to do the lions share of the killing and suffer the most casualties. Honestly, they are what the American forces need to have, (mentality wise).

This is the doom of the west that looms, streams into the homelands of our ancestors, rapes and kills our distant kindred and assails our very existence.

If the Russians are willing to stand against such a menace while the mincing cowards and traitors of the EU welcome cultural suicide, I'd sooner cast my lot in with the russkies.
Posted by UPT
NOLA
Member since May 2009
6069 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 4:30 pm to
quote:


I will take a sneaky Russian over a goat fricking religious maniac who wants to cut my head off any day of the week.



Who's making you choose?

frick them both.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74865 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 5:23 pm to
Gorbachev put it best. US had the chance to be the number one ally of Russia, but in the 90's when russia needed help we were too busy celebrating the end of the cold war, to react to the humanitarian needs. Those needs led to the current leadership .
Posted by AlonsoWDC
Memphis, where it ain't Ten-a-Key
Member since Aug 2014
9387 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 5:32 pm to
This thread is proof that cuck cuts both ways.
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
5372 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

Gorbachev put it best. US had the chance to be the number one ally of Russia, but in the 90's when russia needed help we were too busy celebrating the end of the cold war


He was right, after the fall of the iron curtain the russian people became pro American and embraced western culture.

The USA had them heading in the right direction but rather than foster that opportunity the Us did nothing and wasted that opportunity.
This post was edited on 12/23/16 at 5:38 pm
Posted by Breesus
Unplug
Member since Jan 2010
69549 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 5:37 pm to
quote:

they fact Putin supports Trump is somewhat of a concern of mine.


Putin supports Trump. Trump does not rely on Putin for support and is not actively involved with him.

Hillary Clinton on the other hand is actually involved with Saudi Arabians.
Posted by RedRifle
Austin/NO
Member since Dec 2013
8335 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 6:42 pm to
quote:

Who's making you choose? frick them both.


You're an idiot.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
41806 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 7:20 pm to
I laugh how during the Cold War the left in America was all about "extending the olive branch" and "establishing a dialog" with the Communist USSR. Now, any interaction with a non-communist Russia offends their sensibilities.
Posted by bountyhunter
North of Houston a bit
Member since Mar 2012
7181 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 8:18 pm to
Most people don't even consider the start of the Cold War was a result of our post-war actions. Soviet Russia took the bulk of the losses, both in human and economic terms; yet they received basically none of the assistance offered by the USA. Instead of helping them we rebuilt Germany, the aggressor in the war and one of the biggest rivals to the Russia going back to the middle ages.

Not saying they didn't have their problems, they were a harsh regime. But to say the United States has been trailblazers in forms of human rights, both at home and abroad, is a complete falacy.
This post was edited on 12/23/16 at 8:22 pm
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74865 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 8:37 pm to
quote:

laugh how during the Cold War the left in America was all about "extending the olive branch" and "establishing a dialog" with the Communist USSR. Now, any interaction with a non-communist Russia offends their sensibilities.



Clinton is mostly to blame for not building relations with Russia. They were very pro-US in the 90's. He had good relations with Yeltsin, but he and the ineffective congress under Newt did nothing to help our relations with Russia.

We should have given them aid.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74865 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 8:42 pm to
quote:

Most people don't even consider the start of the Cold War was a result of our post-war actions.


The partitioning of Germany was a big cause of Cold war tensions. They felt all of Berlin should be theirs.

We wanted to split it, even though we didn't split any cities in the western zones. Also They wanted faster reparations from the war, and were upset on the Americans insistence on taking some of those reparations for payments for lend-lease (remember we gave them thousands of planes and tanks) Then anti-communism fever took off in a big way in the 40's.

China and Korea turning to the USSR for aid and being set up as communist didn't help either (I'm trying to keep it short so simplifying)
The Korean war was a direct result of WW2 and was in most ways the true start of the Cold War.

You are right though, instead of giving russia the gold they were owed, we put it into rebuilding Germany first. We never offered to help rebuild their cities.

We are lucky Hitler hated Slavs, and saw Communism as a Jewish problem, had he not and he teamed up with Russia defeating them would have been much much harder.

Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51408 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 8:43 pm to
quote:

Pragmatism

should be everything for everyone.
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
68343 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 8:45 pm to
Wonder how Rex feels about this?
Posted by Vegas Eddie
The Quad
Member since Dec 2013
6084 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

harsh regime



There's an understatement.... we should have went to war with them
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
5223 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 8:46 pm to
quote:

I will take a sneaky Russian over a goat fricking religious maniac who wants to cut my head off any day of the week.


The choice isn't Russia vs some Muslim.

The choice is if we cozy up with Putin or stick by our NATO allies in Europe. Putin has already invaded Ukraine and threatens the Baltic States.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
135024 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 8:55 pm to
quote:

There's an understatement.... we should have went to war with them



Because THAT always works out just swimmingly.
This post was edited on 12/23/16 at 8:56 pm
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